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15 minutes ago, herring_RN said:

As an 11 yer old I read the Bible on my own. When I asked my my Grandma about 2 Thessalonians 3:10 she explained to me, "Saint Paul was telling the Thessalonians not to be fooled into into the false charity of giving food in the name of Jesus Christ to persons who capable of working and able to get work, and were too lazy and selfish to work." She also explained that paid work was not required. Fishing, gathering food, caring for children, and housework is work too.

My Mom's family were homeless Dust Bowl Refugees. My grandfather was a "tree surgeon", who knew how to keep trees alive where they didn't grow naturally. There is a tree he saved in Fort Worth Texas with a concrete area in the trunk where he signed his name and the date. Grandma took us to see it. They had to travel through Texas, Oklahoma, Arizona, New Mexico, Nevada, and California where he could get work. My Mom, her brother, and sister never started an finished a grade in the same school until they were able to settle in Oklahoma, where they attended High School

Grandma traveled with a sack of flour, a sack corn meal, a box of powdered milk, salt, and sugar. She saved grease from frying for times they had no money. When there was no money she made corn bread over a fire, and put gravy made with grease, salt, and flour to fill up the kids. She gathered edible greens by the side of the road. In the few pictures Grandma was very skinny. My Mom said she didn't eat until the kids and her father had eaten.

 

 

 

Thank you for that Herring, it is watching and listening to stories like these and also the stories of the people who worked in the mills and factories in my own area but still starved and died very young that I gained my views that unless we treat each other fairly and look after the weakest of us we are failing as a species. 

I know to American eyes what I write can seem communist but it isn't it is socialist and I cannot do with the attitude "the diel tak the hindmost."

 

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26 minutes ago, GrumpyRN said:

Thank you for that Herring, it is watching and listening to stories like these and also the stories of the people who worked in the mills and factories in my own area but still starved and died very young that I gained my views that unless we treat each other fairly and look after the weakest of us we are failing as a species. 

I know to American eyes what I write can seem communist but it isn't it is socialist and I cannot do with the attitude "the diel tak the hindmost."

Thank you! I've been blessed to know a married couple from Manchester, England. Both are nurses. I worked with him for more than a decade. He told me he thought I was very American being from Oklahoma with a jazz musician father. He also recommended a book to me that you may have read. I recommend it too! It was written in 1914.

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The Ragged Trousered Philanthropists by Robert Tressell tells the story of a group of working men who are joined one day by Owen, a journeyman-prophet with a vision of a just society. Owen's spirited attacks on the greed and dishonesty of the capitalist system rouse his fellow men from their political quietism. The Ragged Trousered Philanthropists is both a masterpiece of wit and political passion and one of the most authentic novels of English working class life ever written.

https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/921359.The_Ragged_Trousered_Philanthropists 

 

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True American values are being displayed by Republican Justin Amash, as he continues to point out that Trump is wearing NO CLOTHES.

Conservative columnist, Jennifer Rubin, has a column in today's WaPo:

Justin Amash Shows That Courage Is Rewarded-Sometimes

Rubin is a true conservative. Not a Trumpster, or right-winger.

So it is a point of view worth reading.

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Another example of American values is Robert Mueller.

A decorated war veteran, and principled man, who did a great service to this country.

He did NOT exonerate Trump, because he COULDN'T, exonerate Trump.

A hero, indeed.

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I think that the detention camps and their cruel management are representative of Trump's view of American values. Certainly some Americans are accepting of the current treatment of people who come to our southern border.  

 

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US Senate votes to block Trump from selling arms to Saudi Arabia amid rising tensions in the Middle East - as President vows to veto

  • Senators voted to block the Trump administration from selling arms to Saudi Arabia, amid rising tensions with the Middle East
  • The White House said stopping the sales 'would send a message that the United States is abandoning its partners and allies' when threats are increasing 
  • While all the resolutions of disapproval are likely to pass the House, supporters fell well short of a veto-proof margin
  • Two of the resolutions passed with 53 votes, and another was with 51 votes
  • Overturning a veto requires a two-thirds majority in both the House and Senate

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7165687/US-Senate-votes-block-Saudi-arms-sales-Trump-vows-veto.html

The Senate has voted to block the Trump administration from selling arms to Saudi Arabia, launching a new challenge to President Donald Trump's alliance with the country amid rising tensions in the Middle East. Mr Trump has promised to veto the measures. The White House said stopping the sales 'would send a message that the United States is abandoning its partners and allies at the very moment when threats to them are increasing'.

President Trump defends the sale of weapons to Saudi Arabia, telling Chuck Todd that the purchases lead to American jobs, during an exclusive interview with Meet the Press.

Just listen to President Trump:

https://www.nbcnews.com/meet-the-press/video/trump-on-saudi-arabia-take-their-money-62520901655

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“Democrats Continue to Express Low U.S. Pride

The latest overall declines in patriotism are largely driven by Democrats, whose self-reported pride has historically been lower and has fluctuated more than Republicans'. Democrats' latest 22% extreme pride reading is the group's lowest in Gallup's 19 years of measurement, and is half of what it was several months before Donald Trump's 2016 election victory.

For their part, most Republicans have remained extremely proud of their country, and the latest 76% reading is just 10 points below the high recorded in 2003. Even when Barack Obama was in office, Republicans' extreme pride never fell below 68%.

Independents have historically been less proud of the U.S. than Republicans have been; currently, 41% express extreme pride -- which is, by one point, the lowest reading in the trend.”

https://news.gallup.com/poll/259841/american-pride-hits-new-low-few-proud-political-system.aspx

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59 minutes ago, SC_RNDude said:

“Democrats Continue to Express Low U.S. Pride

The latest overall declines in patriotism are largely driven by Democrats, whose self-reported pride has historically been lower and has fluctuated more than Republicans'. Democrats' latest 22% extreme pride reading is the group's lowest in Gallup's 19 years of measurement, and is half of what it was several months before Donald Trump's 2016 election victory.

For their part, most Republicans have remained extremely proud of their country, and the latest 76% reading is just 10 points below the high recorded in 2003. Even when Barack Obama was in office, Republicans' extreme pride never fell below 68%.

Independents have historically been less proud of the U.S. than Republicans have been; currently, 41% express extreme pride -- which is, by one point, the lowest reading in the trend.”

https://news.gallup.com/poll/259841/american-pride-hits-new-low-few-proud-political-system.aspx

This Democrat can only speak for herself, but I am not proud of what America has become since Trump has taken office.  The acceptance of what has always been unacceptable, including, but not limiting to caging children, the poor treatment of veterans, the immaturity and braggadocio of our supposed leader, his consorting with dictators,  and the fact that his supporters revel in this kind of behavior.  

Here's what I am proud of:  Americans who stand up and say this is not acceptable, Americans who believe that basic rights extend to all people and not just the white and wealthy, Americans who believe that all people should be treated humanely, Americans who may not hold the same beliefs that I do, but still stand up for decency.  

 

 

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15 minutes ago, BCgradnurse said:

This Democrat can only speak for herself, but I am not proud of what America has become since Trump has taken office.  The acceptance of what has always been unacceptable, including, but not limiting to caging children, the poor treatment of veterans, the immaturity and braggadocio of our supposed leader, his consorting with dictators,  and the fact that his supporters revel in this kind of behavior.  

Here's what I am proud of:  Americans who stand up and say this is not acceptable, Americans who believe that basic rights extend to all people and not just the white and wealthy, Americans who believe that all people should be treated humanely, Americans who may not hold the same beliefs that I do, but still stand up for decency.  

 

 

A good measure of today's Republicans are not demonstrating pride but rather jingoism and nationalism. Most don't know the difference. Trump promotes jingoistic attitudes. 

 

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