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5 hours ago, KonichiwaRN said:

I think I'm considered as a "right winger" from you?

a) Again, comes to the Supreme Court. Notice how important our Supreme court is..keep on focus? https://www.npr.org/2019/05/28/727527860/supreme-court-upholds-indiana-provision-mandating-burial-or-cremation-of-fetal-r

b) I support the right of marriage for LGBTQ community OR I support the government withdrawing "benefits" for heterosexual couples as a whole.

 

There you go.

Believing it or not, is totally up to you.

You define yourself.

I do not define you.

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1 hour ago, GrumpyRN said:

Again your basic knowledge is letting you down. Jamestown is a place not a person so not sure who the "his" in "his famous quote" is.

 

Sorry Nel but I seem to be having a delay. your comment about Jamestown was not showing when I wrote my comment. 

No need to say sorry, Grumpy.

My comments go through a moderator, so there is a delay.

Not your fault.

Besides, great minds think alike!

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A great American value is to not denigrate another American and take the side of a murderous dictator, while on foreign soil. 

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9 hours ago, nursej22 said:

A great American value is to not denigrate another American and take the side of a murderous dictator, while on foreign soil. 

You are right, nursej.

And another time Trump did this very thing, during his Helsinki meeting with Putin, the heads of US intelligence agencies spoke out against his treasonous behavior.

Funny how Trump accuses those very same people of "a coup."

The only people demonstrating unAmerican behavior is Trump, and his supporters.

 

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15 hours ago, KonichiwaRN said:

Also, since you mentioned Jamestown..

 

Let's use his famous quote.

 

Those that don't work, do not eat? Something like that? 🙂

Now, nit pick on that one as well. Of course, to suit "your side's rhetoric."

Very glad we do not live by "Bible law," here in the US.

Otherwise, children and the elderly would starve to death, as they don't work.

 

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https://historicjamestowne.org/history/pocahontas/john-smith/

 

As suspected. 🙂

"nit picking."

 

As if anyone didn't know Jamestown is NOT a human being. Wait. You guys had to explain that? James Town.

 

Here you go. An American Value!

 

https://rachelsruminations.com/individual-freedom-self-reliance-renunciation/

 

"Americans especially value self-reliance, and see it as a requirement to obtain and secure individual freedom. In other words, given their tremendous distrust of government—also stemming from the American Revolution—they expect to be successful through their own efforts.

American heroes, generally, have all been self-made men (and, increasingly, women). Traditionally it was the frontiersmen and pioneers who set out on their own and were solely responsible for their own well-being. Later this view was applied to any successful businessman who, through his own efforts, went “from rags to riches.” This partially explains Trump’s supporters.

This image—the self-reliant, self-made man—has been extended since the American Revolution to include a distinctly libertarian bent. Not only should people be responsible for their own welfare and prosperity, but the flip side of that idea, in the view of many Americans, is that the government doesn’t have the right to intervene, either to further an individual’s prosperity or to hinder it.

This idea helps me explain the general emphasis on low taxes and small government."

 

Well said indeed. A person that "renounced" his/her American citizenship.

And this is a person that teaches American studies in Netherlands. 🙂

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38 minutes ago, KonichiwaRN said:

https://historicjamestowne.org/history/pocahontas/john-smith/

 

As suspected. 🙂

"nit picking."

 

As if anyone didn't know Jamestown is NOT a human being. Wait. You guys had to explain that? James Town.

 

Here you go. An American Value!

 

https://rachelsruminations.com/individual-freedom-self-reliance-renunciation/

 

"Americans especially value self-reliance, and see it as a requirement to obtain and secure individual freedom. In other words, given their tremendous distrust of government—also stemming from the American Revolution—they expect to be successful through their own efforts.

American heroes, generally, have all been self-made men (and, increasingly, women). Traditionally it was the frontiersmen and pioneers who set out on their own and were solely responsible for their own well-being. Later this view was applied to any successful businessman who, through his own efforts, went “from rags to riches.” This partially explains Trump’s supporters.

This image—the self-reliant, self-made man—has been extended since the American Revolution to include a distinctly libertarian bent. Not only should people be responsible for their own welfare and prosperity, but the flip side of that idea, in the view of many Americans, is that the government doesn’t have the right to intervene, either to further an individual’s prosperity or to hinder it.

This idea helps me explain the general emphasis on low taxes and small government."

 

Well said indeed. A person that "renounced" his/her American citizenship.

And this is a person that teaches American studies in Netherlands. 🙂

If what you refer to as "nit picking," is adherence to the truth, then I am indeed guilty of "not picking."

I understand it is not something Trumpsters can easily understand, as truthfulness, has no place in Trumplandia.

But I do not reside in Trumplandia.

My friends are not Trumpsters.

So, truth matters to me.

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36 minutes ago, KonichiwaRN said:

https://historicjamestowne.org/history/pocahontas/john-smith/

 

As suspected. 🙂

"nit picking."

 

As if anyone didn't know Jamestown is NOT a human being. Wait. You guys had to explain that? James Town.

 

You are the one who stated; "Also, since you mentioned Jamestown.. Let's use his famous quote." I pointed out it was a biblical quote so not original. And we asked who the "his" was.

Not my fault you are less than clear when writing.

 

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1 minute ago, GrumpyRN said:

You are the one who stated; "Also, since you mentioned Jamestown.. Let's use his famous quote." I pointed out it was a biblical quote so not original. And we asked who the "his" was.

Not my fault you are less than clear when writing.

 

What's the image when one thinks about Jamestown?

Especially that famous quote? (was not verbatim)

 

Oh yea. Let's think about the town. Never mind John Smith.

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43 minutes ago, KonichiwaRN said:

https://rachelsruminations.com/individual-freedom-self-reliance-renunciation/

 

"Americans especially value self-reliance, and see it as a requirement to obtain and secure individual freedom. In other words, given their tremendous distrust of government—also stemming from the American Revolution—they expect to be successful through their own efforts.

American heroes, generally, have all been self-made men (and, increasingly, women). Traditionally it was the frontiersmen and pioneers who set out on their own and were solely responsible for their own well-being. Later this view was applied to any successful businessman who, through his own efforts, went “from rags to riches.” This partially explains Trump’s supporters.

This image—the self-reliant, self-made man—has been extended since the American Revolution to include a distinctly libertarian bent. Not only should people be responsible for their own welfare and prosperity, but the flip side of that idea, in the view of many Americans, is that the government doesn’t have the right to intervene, either to further an individual’s prosperity or to hinder it.

This idea helps me explain the general emphasis on low taxes and small government."

 

Well said indeed. A person that "renounced" his/her American citizenship.

And this is a person that teaches American studies in Netherlands. 🙂

That is someone's blog, an opinion piece by a person so  disillusioned by the American system that they are renouncing their citizenship and have left the country, and also dated 2015 .

Can we get something with a bit of research behind it.

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2 minutes ago, KonichiwaRN said:

What's the image when one thinks about Jamestown?

Europeans taking advantage of the native population. Stealing their land and introducing disease.

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18 hours ago, GrumpyRN said:

Oh please. Jamestown? It is a bible quotation, 2 Thessalonians 3:10.

Oh and by the way, Jamestown was British, founded in 1607. America didn't become a thing until you d*mn colonials rose up against good King Georgie in 1776.

As an 11 yer old I read the Bible on my own. When I asked my my Grandma about 2 Thessalonians 3:10 she explained to me, "Saint Paul was telling the Thessalonians not to be fooled into into the false charity of giving food in the name of Jesus Christ to persons who capable of working and able to get work, and were too lazy and selfish to work." She also explained that paid work was not required. Fishing, gathering food, caring for children, and housework is work too.

My Mom's family were homeless Dust Bowl Refugees. My grandfather was a "tree surgeon", who knew how to keep trees alive where they didn't grow naturally. There is a tree he saved in Fort Worth Texas with a concrete area in the trunk where he signed his name and the date. Grandma took us to see it. They had to travel through Texas, Oklahoma, Arizona, New Mexico, Nevada, and California where he could get work. My Mom, her brother, and sister never started an finished a grade in the same school until they were able to settle in Oklahoma, where they attended High School

Grandma traveled with a sack of flour, a sack corn meal, a box of powdered milk, salt, and sugar. She saved grease from frying for times they had no money. When there was no money she made corn bread over a fire, and put gravy made with grease, salt, and flour to fill up the kids. She gathered edible greens by the side of the road. In the few pictures Grandma was very skinny. My Mom said she didn't eat until the kids and her father had eaten.

 

 

 

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