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What do you think of as American values?

Before we were the United States the Declaration of Independence put in writing these words:

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We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.

 

 

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American values?

We are a nation of inhabitants united by our philosophy that promotes the exercise of the individual free will and not what other people tell us what we are/or can-cannot achieve.

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 To me the first written words about American values were one sentence of the Declaration of Independence, "We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.”

 I think it includes a belief in the uniqueness of each person.  

 I learned in first grade that American Values are cultural values, not moral values.  These include Individual freedom, self reliance, equality of opportunity, competition, the American Dream, and hard work.

My teacher told us a person cannot have freedom without self reliance. Her example was that because we children needed adults to provide and care for us we had to follow their rules.

 If a person has an equal opportunity to succeed, they have an obligation to compete. I think we are still working on that one because we don’t yet have equal opportunity and some people don’t even try to succeed.

 The American Dream means we have an opportunity for a better life and a higher standard of living. Those can be achieved through hard work.

 I learned the typically American belief that if people take responsibility for their lives and work hard, the Constitution gives them freedom to work toward their goals and have the opportunity to succeed.

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50 minutes ago, KonichiwaRN said:

American values?

We are a nation of inhabitants united by our philosophy that promotes the exercise of the individual free will and not what other people tell us what we are/or can-cannot achieve.

Where did you get that idea?

Read the writings of John Adams and Thomas Jefferson.

They actually wrote the Declaration of Independence.

They were men of the LAW.

Are laws examples of free will?

No.

 

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If you want to fish, you'll make it in this nation and people will help you learn and do your best. (I think this is also a core American value)

If you want fish to be handed out to you, then..prepare to oppose the likes of I because you have no right to the fruits of my labor or the labor of my neighbors.

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10 minutes ago, KonichiwaRN said:

If you want to fish, you'll make it in this nation and people will help you learn and do your best. (I think this is also a core American value)

If you want fish to be handed out to you, then..prepare to oppose the likes of I because you have no right to the fruits of my labor or the labor of my neighbors.

Are you self-employed?

If not, a whole lot of people are stealing the fruits of your labor.

Let's start with the company CEO, who probably earns 1000x, or much more, than you do.

We will eventually move on up to the company's stockholders.

Nameless and faceless people, making money off of YOUR labor.

I agree with you, Capitalism sucks!

There has to be a better way.

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27 minutes ago, KonichiwaRN said:

If you want to fish, you'll make it in this nation and people will help you learn and do your best. (I think this is also a core American value)

If you want fish to be handed out to you, then..prepare to oppose the likes of I because you have no right to the fruits of my labor or the labor of my neighbors.

I think it is an American value too.

But we don't yet all have equal opportunities. 

Some are intelligent, resilient, attractive, and healthy. Other are not.

Some babies are raised in a loving family. Others are abused.

Some grow up having their needs met, others go hungry. Some are mentally retarded by lead in paint or drinking water so have special needs.

Some people are able to work long enough to retire. Others become ill or have an accident and go broke paying COBRA insurance and/or medical bills. Until 1965 there was no Medicare. After too many old people went broke and then their children tried to pay their parent and sometimes grandparents medical bills and care for them while raising their own children.

I'm glad that after selling her house and working in poor health to pay the hospital and doctor for my grandfather's terminal cancer, my Grandma  qualified for Medicare and moved in with my husband, little kids, and me.

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So if you are wealthy, do you deserve to evict people from your apartment building so that you can charge higher rents? Do you deserve to hire contractors and then refuse to pay them after they have completed their work? Do you deserve to run factories that spew pollution into the air and water, without being liable? 

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An American value I believe in the the former official motto of the United States. E pluribus unum, from many, one. It originally referred to the many states coming together to form a country. I think it also signifies that together we are stronger. When we come together as a nation, with shared goals, we can achieve so much more than as an unorganized anarchy. Think overcoming the Great Depression, winning the Space Race, rebounding from Pearl Harbor. 

 We face daunting challenges now. Climate change, drug abuse, and school shootings. I think the US can overcome these challenges. 

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10 minutes ago, nursej22 said:

So if you are wealthy, do you deserve to evict people from your apartment building so that you can charge higher rents? Do you deserve to hire contractors and then refuse to pay them after they have completed their work? Do you deserve to run factories that spew pollution into the air and water, without being liable? 

Regarding pollution, I still blame BP for ruining our Gulf of Mexico. They just covered it up but you don't hear it on the news these days.

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I don't think we can reverse Climate Change.

There is this nation called China dumping who knows what into the ocean while burning coal.

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9 hours ago, nursej22 said:

So if you are wealthy, do you deserve to evict people from your apartment building so that you can charge higher rents? Do you deserve to hire contractors and then refuse to pay them after they have completed their work? Do you deserve to run factories that spew pollution into the air and water, without being liable? 

Oh, the "sacrifices" Fred Trump, and DJT have made.

I appreciate you answering my question, nursej.

Yes, those were indeed big sacrifices the elder Trumps made for their "silver spoon" offspring.

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