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:trout: After hearing his rage and anger towards his own daughter, how can one wonder why she won't take his calls. Even if I were only 12, there would be no way I would want contact with this evil satan.

He is a real fool and every time he opens his mouth he proves it !

I feel nothing but sadness for his child :o

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I still don't know why we need to know this.

That child abuse exists and is wrong, we know----plenty of talk about that on Oprah, Dr. Phil and all around, thankfully. But do we need to hear every detail in celebrity homes? Really?

As for me; well, I am not anywhere near perfect and have said some stupid and ugly things to my kids I had to definately eat crow for, later on. Does that make me an abuser? I guess it's going to depend on whom you ask.

I just know I have bigger fish to fry than problems in the Baldwin/Bassinger households. Let those of us with no sin, cast the first stones and all that.

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I still don't know why we need to know this.

That child abuse exists and is wrong, we know----plenty of talk about that on Oprah, Dr. Phil and all around, thankfully. But do we need to hear every detail in celebrity homes? Really?

As for me; well, I am not anywhere near perfect and have said some stupid and ugly things to my kids I had to definately eat crow for, later on. Does that make me an abuser? I guess it's going to depend on whom you ask.

I just know I have bigger fish to fry than problems in the Baldwin/Bassinger households. Let those of us with no sin, cast the first stones and all that.

TemperMENTAL says it all, huh? Honestly, given your consistently level-headed and respectful posting I find it hard to imagine that you've ever said things to your kids that you'd regret later. Not that I don't take your word for it, I just have a harder time imagining it of you than of some others.

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Oh I am definately temperamental and hot-headed and given to stupid acts of anger and human inperfection more than I care to admit. Most of the time, I try to walk away before saying anything damaging or too stupid. Most times, I succeed! It's all new for me, as I was verbally and physically abused all through my own childhood. It's what I know and the burden I carry when trying not to hurt my own kids with words or worse, any sort of physical punishment. Trying to turn around generations of abuse is not easy in just one generation, mine!

But--- my teen son, who can really pull my chain hard, well, he can attest to my occasional lapse in adult and level-headed judgement. I just want to believe Alec Baldwin may not be all that different than I . I am sure I would be absolutely humiliated, embarassed and appalled if some of my strong words were repeated ad nauseum to millions for their purveyance and judgement and even, titillation. That is all I can say on this. The man lost his head. Maybe he is a jerk. Who knows? I Just know I am giving both my kids a big hug tonight and I keep trying to do better tomorrow.

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TemperMENTAL says it all, huh? Honestly, given your consistently level-headed and respectful posting I find it hard to imagine that you've ever said things to your kids that you'd regret later. Not that I don't take your word for it, I just have a harder time imagining it of you than of some others.
Not speaking for Deb...

.... BUT:

If "Child Protection Services" were a "witness" in my house when my parents raised me - my parents would probably be accused of abuse and be locked up in jail today :uhoh21:

Corporal punishment was employed on my brother and I, as a last resort. My parents weren't sadists - but we kids weren't angels either. Today, when I think back on some of the stupid stunts I pulled as a kid... it makes me very ashamed and I regret putting my parents through that.

My parents "straightened" me out when I was a kid - and I'm thankful that they loved me enough to do so. My parents were sticklers for discipline and honesty and ensured that we kids learned the lessons and learned 'em well. I am who I am today largely thanks to their efforts - efforts which sometimes required them to use harsh punishment.

I'm not "defending" Baldwin. Clearly, from the information available, his behavior toward his child was inappropriate.

But my parents taught me to "not wash ones dirty linen in public".

I suspect Bassinger (or her representatives) didn't think twice about releasing this information public - in my eyes, they are equally guilty [who cares what the daughter feels, so long as I can make the ex appear a loser] ??

None of this information needed to be made public. This is nothing short of lurid gossip. A family in tatters is no subject for public discussion. This was (and still is IMHO) a matter between the two adults, the child and legal services.

My :twocents:

(and I feel this way about Britney Spears' baby-on-lap-seat antics and other such "news")

cheers,

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I'm still trying to figure out why any celebrity would say anything like this ... knowing it was being recorded.

Rightly or wrongly, these things are going to be publicized due to the fact that they are celebrities.

I notice Basinger isn't commenting which means, she's not denying that she leaked it either.

:typing

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He said this cause, like many of us, he lost his mind. (not justifying, here, just saying what probably happened)

I have been there, done that. Thank GOODNESS I was not recorded during such outbursts. Kids will drive you to say (and God forbid, do) some awful things, I can say. Things you will regret. They know how to push every button that counts and in a weak moment, a person can "lose it". Those who have never done this, you are better people than I. And my hat is off to you.

Quoting one part of Roy's last post:

"None of this information needed to be made public. This is nothing short of lurid gossip. A family in tatters is no subject for public discussion. This was (and still is IMHO) a matter between the two adults, the child and legal services." A-MEN!

Roy I find myself, once again, agreeing with you 100%.

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From the perspective of an adult who was not verbally or physically abused as a child...I definately believe this was not the only time this little girl heard such language and hatefulness from her father and I think that whether or not he is a celebrity (I could care less who he is) that he needed to be humilated to see himself for the obviously abusive person that he is. Hopefully he will go for counseling. I don't think that just be being in a bad mood or having a bad day would cause a parent to leave that message if they are not already an abusive type person. I cannot ever imagine calling my child a pig, etc...I've hollared at my kids but have never attacked their self esteem.

My dh was a verbally and physically abused child. He has never done anything like that to our children because he knows how it feels to be on the receiving end but when listening to the Baldwin message he didn't think it was that bad.

My point is I think it depends on what perspective you're coming from.

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You are right; perspective is everything. What I heard, from my own horrendous concept of childrearing in my parents' home, was MILD----what Mr. Baldwin said. But that does not make it right and I would never minimize what such words can do to a developing psyche in a child...... You are so right about that Dutchie. It was horrendous. But a private affair IMO.

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Every parent has said things to their child(ren) that they would never want to have broadcasted over the nation's airwaves. There is, however, a big difference between saying something in the heat of the moment like, "now dammit, you better LISTEN to me or I'm gonna break your face!!" to a child who's defied you on the same issue for the umpteenth time, and tearing down their very essence with comments such as Alec Baldwin made to his daughter.

Yes, I said those exact words to my now-grown son some years back, and I'm not proud of it. But he also knew that a) he'd crossed the line one too many times, and b) I'd never break his face in a million years. Whereas I'm not the least bit certain that Ireland has any such reassurance..........what did Baldwin mean by calling her a "thoughtless pig" and threatening to "straighten her out" when he gets back to California?

I think what bothers me so much about all this---aside from the fact that it is emotional abuse---is that I expect a man who is nearing fifty to be less self-centered and to have a little perspective. Hasn't he figured out that the world doesn't revolve around him? He seems to think his daughter's 'failure' to answer her phone reflects poorly on him; he has been "embarrassed" for the "very last time" by this incident. Give me a break..........it's not ABOUT you, Alec.:angryfire

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Hasn't he figured out that the world doesn't revolve around him?

As celebrities, they probably do believe the world revolves around them.

;)

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Because we support that notion with our interest and supporting the obscene pay they receive for their work.

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