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I guess it had to happen. Detractors of the full body scan machine coming to airports claim it can alter our DNA interfering with "gene and DNA replication". I don't understand most of the scientific explanations in the articles, but I think we'll be hearing challenges from certain groups about the potential dangers (THz radiation) of the machines.

Also, the machines at this time are said to cost $180,000. One big city airport would have to have several I would think. I'd like to have stock in that company.

Based on our results we argue that a specific terahertz radiation exposure may significantly affect the natural dynamics of DNA, and thereby influence intricate molecular processes involved in gene expression and DNA replication.

http://arxiv.org/PS_cache/arxiv/pdf/0910/0910.5294v1.pdf

http://arxiv.org/abs/0910.5294

Our results demonstrate that exposure of lymphocytes in vitro to a low power density of 0.1 THz radiation induces genomic instability. These findings, if verified, may suggest that such exposure may result in an increased risk of cancer.

http://www.bioone.org/doi/abs/10.1667/RR0944.1?cookieSet=1&journalCode=rare

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This is a touchy topic. Radiation is cumulative, which is why there is concern about frequent exposure to medical imaging. The quality of the purported TSA images seen online shows good detail. Certainly, there is radiation exposure. Include that with the expected life time exposure to determine risk of radiation vs benefit of imaging.

It is good to know how much radiation is involved with TSA checkpoints. I'd not considered this issue, so many thanks for providing thought provoking information (again!). TSA's assessment of risk is based on risk for bombing between, for instance, Austin, TX, and San Francisco, CA. Without seeming jaded, I seriously doubt that my long term cancer risk enters their collective mind.

I worked in radiation oncology for some years and wore a radiation exposure badge. It made me conscious of how much radiation is delivered to a person during a lifetime. This will be an interesting discussion.

Thank you again, anxiouspatient! :specs:

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Wow, those images are way more than I want anyone, other than my spouse or my doctor, to see of me.

I'm sorry, but I think the heavy-duty stuff needs to be reserved for passengers who don't 'smell right', if you catch my drift. I don't care if it's politically incorrect: to date, no planes have been threatened or brought down by 2-year-old children, or grannies by the names of Smith and Sanchez. Them's the FACTS.

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Ok, this might be an incredibly stupid question but ... why can't they just use bomb sniffing dogs at the checkpoints? It would be cheaper and, other than the risk to those who are allergic, harmless to our bodies. Just a thought. Feel free to tear it apart.

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As someone who'd rather be free than safe, this makes me MAD.

One more invasion, one less ounce of freedom thanks to that 'War on Terror.' Where is the protest on how much money THIS will cost taxpayers?

:down:

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Never once ever in my ENTIRE life -59 years and going strong! - had I been fingerprinted ...... until, we went to the USA back in 2006! :(

If we wanted to enter, we HAD to be fingerprinted. Ok ... we respected that demand since we were already in the airport and had flown across a vast ocean over many hours! We accepted those were the rules.

Sadly however, as much as I want to return to the USA for another visit ..... this new requirement to whole body scan, leaves me little choice but to remain on Australian soil!

We injected THOUSANDS of dollars into the US economy during our last visit and also in Hawaii in 2008.

To have to be subjected to such invasion on entering the USA, as a body scan, doesn't inspire us to want to inject another penny into that economy.

Sad but true.

And you can bet your bottom dollar there'll be a boatload of other potential travellers who hold this same view.

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As someone who'd rather be free than safe, this makes me :angryfire

One more invasion, one less ounce of freedom thanks to that 'War on Terror.' Where is the protest on how much money THIS will cost taxpayers?

:down:

Elvish, you're starting to sound an awful lot like............me.:wink2:

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Elvish, you're starting to sound an awful lot like............me.:wink2:

Well, there certainly are worse people to sound like. :)

It angers me that someone in the White House/TSA/CIA/DHS/whatever other letters you'd like to put there thinks it necessary to scan the body in accurate anatomical detail of every single person flying on an airplane because one lone whackjob decided to put explosives in his underwear. (He failed miserably, and who wants the moniker 'the Underwear Bomber' anyway? That sounds like a euphemism my son would come up with for farting, honestly. I digress.)

Why does our government feel the need to restrict the freedoms of any citizen because one unstable person decides to do one ridiculously stupid thing? :down::down::down::down::down:

Will they now use this to justify going to war somewhere else? It wouldn't surprise me.

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Why does our government feel the need to restrict the freedoms of any citizen because one unstable person decides to do one ridiculously stupid thing?

Our Most Benevolent Government (MBG) reduces our freedoms one step at a time, as a response to a perceived threat (real or imagined). A lot of it is pushed by politicians who must be seen as tough on crime/drugs/terror/{insert threat-du-jour here} in order to get reelected by the sheeple.

If you don't agree with these "reasonable" restrictions on our freedoms, you must be a nutjob or terrorist or druggie or....:uhoh21:

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On the other hand if they had the body scan they would have seen what was in the guys underwear.

I think they are coming up with models that don't look so "invasive".

I would be concerned about the radiation if I were a frequent flier.Many Muslim business people travel to the USA frequently, such as Indians. It's a big deal in India how they are treated in the USA based on profiling and how they "smell" as Marla said, based on their names and their looks. The Indian Embassy had to intervene when a world famous star was detained for several hours while traveling to a film festival in the USA. He's so famous it's like picking Tom Cruise or Juilia Roberts and questioning them "you're skin color and name make you suspect." Frankly I'd rather see everyone scanned than rely on the prejudices of someone else to pick people out of a crowd, because you know all us white folks will just breeze on through.

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How about leaving everybody the hell alone and examine the foreign policy reasons behind why people want to do this sort of thing to begin with?

I know the answer, of course.

Edited by ElvishDNP

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The news today said Britain will exempt kids from scans due to child pornography concerns.

Civil liberties groups are arguing that the scans present particular concerns to parents of children and celebrities who may be targeted by unscrupulous security workers selling naked images from the scans. A pilot program using the scans, which reveal genitalia and breast enlargements, was allowed in Manchester last year only after all children under the age of 18 were exempted. The 1978 Protection of Children makes it illegal to create an indecent image or a "pseudo-image" of a child.

Also, with hospitals and even law enforcement occasionally caught giving in to revealing private information on celebrities, how much temptation will there be for an airport employee to look to profit from having access to some A-List star passing through a security scan?

http://www.newser.com/story/77476/brit-body-scans-risk-breaking-kid-porn-laws.html

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