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OK, I've got to admit it: I'm torn.

I like Barack Obama as a human being. He is articulate and seems sincere, and he clearly is in this for something besides his own glory. He is also young, energetic, intelligent, attractive, sharply dressed, sympathetic, well-intentioned, and appealing. He has vision, he obviously loves this country, he has a beautiful family, and he has moral values.

I have problems with John McCain. He's too old. He's hot-tempered, a trait that doesn't go with problem-solving skills. He's got a trophy wife and a troubled marital history. He seems too willing to jump into military solutions to diplomatic issues. He has some shaky ethics. Moreover, he is too closely aligned with George W. Bush, whom I loathe, and is too willing to concede important points to the far right wing, whose politics has been soundly rejected by the majority of the country.

So why haven't I made up my mind?

It comes right down to Obama's acceptance speech: It scared me.

I never thought I'd say this, but I may be about to vote with my pocketbook. The cost of living is going through the roof; the economy has been sputtering badly; people are losing their homes; retirement plans are iffy. Then here comes Obama, striding onto the stage for the speech of his career..........and he starts talking about "investing" in new government programs. Read: asking us for more money that we don't have enough of to start with.

Now, I've been very vocal about my support for universal health care and my opposition to the Iraq war (although I certainly wanted Congress to pass those appropriations bills so my daughter and her fellow troops could have adequate equipment!!). But I am NOT in favor of opening our borders so we can support millions of illegal immigrants. I do NOT want to "be my brother's keeper" without requiring some accountability for how he spends my tax dollars. Nor do I want to pay more and more for energy to satisfy the radical environmentalist lunatic fringe.

I don't want shiny new programs right now. We can't afford them. Bush is leaving us with such a mess that I think it's highly irresponsible of ANY candidate to ask for more money. We are stretched thin enough as it is! And I don't believe for a minute that 95% of "working families" will not be asked to pony up more cash.......for that matter, will someone please define what a working family IS? Do the Democrats believe that only poor and middle-class families work for a living?

I also don't buy the argument that "the rich" are not paying enough. Like it or not, these are the people who create jobs; if they are forced to pay more, they're going to cut back on wages, or personnel, or benefits. How does that benefit anyone?

So I'm really undecided here. I've voted for Democrats in every presidential election since 1988, even when I had to summon all my strength to pull the lever (Dukakis and Kerry come to mind), but the Republican alternatives were so heinous that there was no choice. Now, for the first time since Ronald Reagan, I'm seriously reconsidering that stance. Maybe it's because as I've aged and raised my family, I've become more conservative politically and personally; maybe it's because I'm fearful for Obama's life should he be elected; maybe it's because I'm intrigued with McCain's VP selection and instinctively like her, even if she is much more conservative than I am.

WHatever the reason, this is an incredibly difficult decision for me to make, and for the first time in recent memory, I'm glad I still have a couple of months to make up my mind. This is perhaps THE most important election of our lifetime; whomever we choose this November could have an impact on generations of Americans yet to come, for better..........or worse.

Ah, yes, we live in interesting times.

What are your thoughts?

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I actually think Obama has ethical problems of his own.

But the crux of it for me is that he looks to liberalism for solutions - and that means a bigger government bureaucracy and he needs a lot more money for that and the money will come from working class Americans like me and my husband who own a small business and are struggling as it is.

McCain has done some things that lean liberal but for the most part he wants to cut spending, cut out the waste in government, and lessen the tax burden on Americans.

Marrying into a farming and logging family has taught me so much about what it means to work hard for a living and to give of your time and effort to those less fortunate. Conservative families get a bum rap regarding compassion. As do liberal families.

I initially was not happy with McCain but I would never vote for Obama. I've been pleasantly surprised with McCain's choice of veep and like her very much. Especially her later in life child - as I had Danny at 43 and we went through the fear of Down's Syndrome . . .which is another subject but I think the docs go way overboard in scaring we "older" women about that. :down:

This decision is not difficult for me - I'm voting for McCain/Palin.

I guess I'm thinking that someone who leans libertarian would have to lean conservative vs. liberal because the social liberal stuff (legalizing pot:smokin:) is not as important as the fiscal conservative stuff (do away with government interference:rckn:). IMO.

steph

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Like the OP, I've held my nose and voted the same ticket for years, although in my case it was Republican, since 1976. I was lucky, or unlucky, that Ronald Reagan was the first great Republican since I-don't-know-when. Since then, I keep hoping that someone will follow in his footsteps. I was disgusted when the Republican-controlled government spent like there was no tomorrow. What happened to the Contract With America in 1994? I don't really tell anyone that I'm a Republican, just that I'm conservative. I am ashamed of RINOs, like McCain and Lindsey Graham. I don't like Palin's playing into the glass ceiling thing. No woman has been elected president because, in my view, no woman has come forth with strength like Margaret Thatcher. I would vote for a woman, a black, or anyone else that shares my values. The only candidate I ever gave money to was black.

I admire Obama today for his stance against involving Gov. Palin's children into politics.

Although I'm very conservative, abortion is not a big deal with me. Immigration is the issue for me. Therefore, neither candidate is acceptable. After voting for Dole in '96, I decided that I would never again vote for someone just because he's not the other guy; the lesser of two evils.

What to do? What to do?

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What are your thoughts?
We're screwed either way. Both parties love big government. Neither of them actually want to cut any spending - Obama wants to Tax and spend while McCain wants to borrow and spend. Both parties love war - they just can't decide on the parts of the globe they want to influence. Neither of them particularly care about your pocket book nor your conscience.

Marla - you can still "write in" your candidate. Thus you'd still be voting your conscience and not have to 'pick the lesser of two evils'. It is the most significant form of protest, IMO. A rejection of the 'no choice' system we're forced to endure election after election.

:twocents:

cheers,

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I agree with steph, I like Sara Palin I did some research on her right after the announcement. Heck I wish she was running for pres. (FYI I am an independent) I have never cared for Obama he is too smooth. JMHO

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I think the cost of a ten year plan to eliminate our need for foreign oil will lead to more jobs in the short run. And improved economy in the long run.

Senator Mccain has not explained how he wants to pay for the war.

It will take time to pay down the debt McCains party borrowed.

Instead of telling us to go shopping Senator Obama is asking Americans to do our part.

I think it comes down to whether our focus is us as Americans or everyone for himself.

Cooperation appeals to me. Our country started with the words "We the People of the United States".

Obama Plan to Strengthen the Economy

http://www.barackobama.com/issues/economy/

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I just find it unbelievable that Dems think someone with 143 days of senate experience is somehow qulified for the Oval Office.

That's scary.

He doesn't think Iran is a threat. That's scary.

And I've actually never seen any personality in him. He seems like a robot to me.

Even when I was a Democrat (1974-2001) I voted for McCain. He was the first and only person I crossed party lines for.

Now that I'm an Independant, I'll cross party lines again and vote for McCain/Palin.

I'm pro-choice, but I really don't think it's an issue that makes or breaks my vote. It may get harder to have an abortion, but it will still be legal. I don't see Roe V Wade getting overturned.

I worry about our economy as everyone else does. I don't want to get taxed up the ying-yang.

But I still worry about terroism. I worry about more attacks.

And I can't see how Obama if qualified to handle all that.

I don't care how people think Bush did, or is he was smart or qualified. Dont' care.

I care now about Obama's lack of any experience. I don't think charm, charisma or a trance is good enough either. Charm won't stop another 9/11. Charisma won't end the Iraq war.

And I want the war ended too. I want it to end when it's safe, ready and able. Not just some random date to appease the masses.

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Marla - you can still "write in" your candidate. Thus you'd still be voting your conscience and not have to 'pick the lesser of two evils'. It is the most significant form of protest, IMO. A rejection of the 'no choice' system we're forced to endure election after election.

:twocents:

cheers,

This is where I disagree with you Roy - and it isn't the lesser of two evils, it is just finding a candidate who is more like you than unlike you.

I understand the protest vote and have seen it many times in my "old age" - my libertarian-leaning daughter is thinking the same thing.

But, if you are in favor of less government interference in your every day life and less taxation and standing up against terrorism, you have more of a chance of getting that with Republicans. Even though - as Mr. Ferguson mentioned, the RINO's have too much power. Looking at McCain's record on cutting taxes and attempting to end PORK, I have to go with him.

Obama will not do anything positive about terrorism, taxes, PORK.

It's like Vegas baby . . . .:clown: Gotta go with your odds. :D

steph

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And I've actually never seen any personality in him. He seems like a robot to me.
In my opinion, the media has portrayed Obama as a hopeful, energetic, spirited personality with plenty of intelligence and integrity. His public persona comes across as 'likable' to many people, which is why he's the first viable black presidential candidate. When Jesse Jackson ran for president, nobody liked his public image. Al Sharpton's presidential campaign drew no serious interest, only some ridicule.

Of course, the beautiful thing about Americans is the possibility for two of us to see totally different things when staring at the exact same person.

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I think anything either candidate says about the economy is empty promises. Although, it's true that we could have done so much with the $1 trillion invested in Iraq.

The real reason to vote for Obama: The next president will likely be appointing up to THREE new Supreme Court Justices.

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