In U.S., 24% of Young Black Men Say Police Dealings Unfair

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    More likely to perceive police treatment as unfair than four other situations

    by Frank Newport
    PRINCETON, NJ -- Almost one in four black men under age 35, 24%, say the police have treated them unfairly during the last 30 days. Among blacks, this percentage drops to as low as 10% among women 55 and older

    http://www.gallup.com/poll/163523/on...20-%20Politics
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    I see it in my work daily. Things I get away with I see young Black men paying thousands of dollars to a lawyer to help them. Ever forgotten to signal? Make a wide turn? etc. I have. I was once going the wrong way on a one way street, failed to have my seat belt fastened, and in the process of going the wrong way did not stop at a stop sign because it did not face the way I was going. When I realized I was going the wrong way I prayed to get to the next intersection safely. Just as I got there the Christmas tree lights of a police car lit up. The man came to my window, saw how upset I was, scared even, told me about the stop sign as he told me the obvious, I was going the wrong way. Fortunately it was a small side street and I did not cause an accident. He told me to turn right and have a nice day.

    I can tell you that would not happen if I were young, especially if I were young and Black. They would have handcuffed me, checked my vehicle asked to search me and my vehicle and when I refused they would have arrested me for everything they could think of. I deal with this everyday - Illegal searches, unnecessary problems. It is not limited to the people of color. Anyone young goes through the same things, it is just that it is more common to do this with people of color.
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    When my son was in the high school band I dropped him off for home games, returned to watch the half time show, and then he would call be for a ride after the game.

    I was driving an older convertible with the back window unzipped because it was opaque. Two motorcycle officers followed me the few miles from the school when they turned on their lights. I pulled over wondering what I could have done. I rolled down the window and had my license and insurance card when one opened the door, grabbed my arm, and pulled be into the street.
    Shining a light in my eyes he asked if I'd been drinking. He said, "Listen sister. You do what I say or you'll regret it."
    When he took my wallet with a nurse's license they both suddenly changed their demeanor.

    I was allowed to go home.
    TheCommuter, sharpeimom, BCgradnurse, and 1 other like this.
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    You have no clue if that would have happened if you were young and black. Throwing out all these liberal assumptions is purely pathetic.

    Quote from aknottedyarn
    I can tell you that would not happen if I were young, especially if I were young and Black. They would have handcuffed me, checked my vehicle asked to search me and my vehicle and when I refused they would have arrested me for everything they could think of. I deal with this everyday - Illegal searches, unnecessary problems. It is not limited to the people of color. Anyone young goes through the same things, it is just that it is more common to do this with people of color.
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    Quote from 22gawhitacre
    You have no clue if that would have happened if you were young and black. Throwing out all these liberal assumptions is purely pathetic.
    It is my job. Believe me, I know. Walk in my shoes for a week. Better yet, walk with my friend for a week. You will get an education.
    Benedina, TheCommuter, sharpeimom, and 1 other like this.
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    In the early 1990s my son and his new wife were living in a nearby town. He worked full time. She attended the university. They rented videos a couple times a week.
    100% of the time he would walk to return and rent videos police would stop him. T
    hey looked at his ID, asked him where he was going, and that was all. He is Black.

    Here where he grew up the police knew who he and his Dad are so they didn't get stopped.
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    The Root: White-on-White Crime: It Goes Against the False Media Narrative
    What Will, Steele and O'Reilly failed to mention is the exacting truth that white Americans are just as likely to be killed by other whites. According to Justice Department statistics (pdf), 84 percent of white people killed every year are killed by other whites.

    The truth? As the largest racial group, whites commit the majority of crimes in America. In particular, whites are responsible for the vast majority of violent crimes. With respect to aggravated assault, whites led blacks 2-1 in arrests; in forcible-rape cases, whites led all racial and ethnic groups by more than 2-1. And in larceny theft, whites led blacks, again, more than 2-1

    In Michelle Alexander's book, The New Jim Crow: Mass Incarceration in the Age of Colorblindness, she explains that the term was coined in the 1980s as American cities underwent transformation as a result of riots, white flight and the onslaught of the drug trade. David Wilson, a professor at the University of Illinois, documents the phenomena in Inventing Black-on-Black Violence. Wilson says that instead of attributing increased crime activity to poverty, inequality and disenfranchisement, the media chose to blame "a supposedly defective, aberrant black culture."

    In a 2010 piece published by The Root, "The Myth of Black-on-Black Violence," Natalie Hopkinson opines that journalists should follow the direction of the United Kingdom, where the Guardian newspaper banned the use of the phrase. A Guardian stylebook asked authors to ''imagine the police saying they were investigating an incident of white-on-white violence ... " Hopkinson concludes, "The term 'black-on-black violence' is a slander against the majority of law-abiding black Americans, rich and poor, who get painted by this broad and crude brush."
    sharpeimom and herring_RN like this.
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    Quote from aknottedyarn
    The Root: White-on-White Crime: It Goes Against the False Media Narrative
    What Will, Steele and O'Reilly failed to mention is the exacting truth that white Americans are just as likely to be killed by other whites. According to Justice Department statistics (pdf), 84 percent of white people killed every year are killed by other whites.

    The truth? As the largest racial group, whites commit the majority of crimes in America. In particular, whites are responsible for the vast majority of violent crimes. With respect to aggravated assault, whites led blacks 2-1 in arrests; in forcible-rape cases, whites led all racial and ethnic groups by more than 2-1. And in larceny theft, whites led blacks, again, more than 2-1

    In Michelle Alexander's book, The New Jim Crow: Mass Incarceration in the Age of Colorblindness, she explains that the term was coined in the 1980s as American cities underwent transformation as a result of riots, white flight and the onslaught of the drug trade. David Wilson, a professor at the University of Illinois, documents the phenomena in Inventing Black-on-Black Violence. Wilson says that instead of attributing increased crime activity to poverty, inequality and disenfranchisement, the media chose to blame "a supposedly defective, aberrant black culture."

    In a 2010 piece published by The Root, "The Myth of Black-on-Black Violence," Natalie Hopkinson opines that journalists should follow the direction of the United Kingdom, where the Guardian newspaper banned the use of the phrase. A Guardian stylebook asked authors to ''imagine the police saying they were investigating an incident of white-on-white violence ... " Hopkinson concludes, "The term 'black-on-black violence' is a slander against the majority of law-abiding black Americans, rich and poor, who get painted by this broad and crude brush."
    According to the link of Justice Department Statistics,
    Based on available data from 1980 to 2008— Blacks were disproportionately represented as both homicide
    victims and offenders. The victimization rate for blacks (27.8
    per 100,000) was 6 times higher than the rate for whites (4.5 per
    100,000). The offending rate for blacks (34.4 per 100,000) was almost
    8 times higher than the rate for whites (4.5 per 100,000) (table 1).
    Digging down I did find that 85% of whites are killed by whites. Also 93% of black victims were killed by blacks. IMO this just indicates that if you are going to kill someone it's probably someone near you and they probably share your race. Black on black crime is not a myth. It is just not reported in the context of the nearly equivalent white on white crime.

    The table linked under "commits the majority of crimes" only lists four groups; white, black, American Indian or Alaskan Native, and Asian or Pacific Islander. Hispanic is not listed. Either Hispanics don't commit any crimes or they are lumped into one of the black/white categories. Are they split up depending on their skin tone or are they lumped into the white category? I don't know but it does make a difference in how we perceive the data.

    I really wish they'd stop reporting race unless it is either the reason for the crime (someone was targeted because of their race) or part of a description to help the public recognize someone who is on the run.
    Last edit by azhiker96 on Jul 21, '13 : Reason: clarification
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    Quote from aknottedyarn
    I can tell you that would not happen if I were young, especially if I were young and Black. They would have handcuffed me, checked my vehicle asked to search me and my vehicle and when I refused they would have arrested me for everything they could think of. I deal with this everyday - Illegal searches, unnecessary problems. It is not limited to the people of color. Anyone young goes through the same things, it is just that it is more common to do this with people of color.
    You didn't get special treatment because you are white. You got special treatment because you are a woman. Ask any man if they can get away with half the crap driving that women get away with.
    22gawhitacre likes this.
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    funny, I can go days without seeing a police officer. But this person saw one 100% of the time several times a week and was accosted by the officers every single time. interesting what are the odds?


    Quote from herring_RN
    In the early 1990s my son and his new wife were living in a nearby town. He worked full time. She attended the university. They rented videos a couple times a week.
    100% of the time he would walk to return and rent videos police would stop him. T
    hey looked at his ID, asked him where he was going, and that was all. He is Black.

    Here where he grew up the police knew who he and his Dad are so they didn't get stopped.


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