Step On Jesus

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    A student at Florida Atlantic University said he was unfairly suspended from his Intercultural Communications class because he refused to step on Jesus.

    Ryan Rotella, a junior from Coral Springs, said the incident began when his professor, Dr. Deandre Poole, asked students in the class to write the word “Jesus” on a piece of paper, fold it up, and step on it.

    Rotella said he voiced his concerns to his teacher’s supervisor and later learned he was suspended from the class.

    FAU said Dr. Poole was conducting a classroom exercise from a textbook entitled “Intercultural Communication: A Contextual Approach, 5th Edition” and released this statement to CBS12: ”Faculty and students at academic institutions pursue knowledge and engage in open discourse. While at times the topics discussed may be sensitive, a university environment is a venue for such dialogue and debate.”
    While the incident has made the news, the media has failed to report a key component of Poole’s resume: He is vice-chairman of the Palm Beach County Democratic Party.
    I hope we can all equally condemn such actions.


    http://miami.cbslocal.com/2013/03/21...step-on-jesus/

    http://www.bizpacreview.com/2013/03/...official-56927
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    Of course the student should not have been disciplined.
    Intercultural Communication is the verbal and nonverbal communication among people of different cultures. The professor should ave used the exercise as a way to begin a discussion, as his teachers manual states. It does NOT suggest that a student should be forced to step on the paper.

    Michael Counter, Director of Media Relations for St. Norbert College, where the aforementioned textbook’s author teaches, responded to our inquiry. Mr. Counter stated that the following exercise, while not included in the textbook (as Florida Atlantic University’s statement noted), is included in the teacher’s manual that accompanies the textbook. The manual reads:
    “This exercise is a bit sensitive, but really drives home the point that even though symbols are arbitrary, they take on very strong and emotional meanings. Have the students write the name JESUS in big letters on a piece of paper. Ask the students to stand up and put the paper on the floor in front of them with the name facing up. Ask the students to think about it for a moment. After a brief period of silence, instruct them to step on the paper. Most will hesitate. Ask why they can’t step on the paper. Discuss the importance of symbols in culture.”
    I've been placed in similar situations. Most recently was a few years ago in some kind of class at work. We were forced to do an exercise whereby we had to choose which person got an organ for transplant. The age, gender, and life's work of each transplant candidate was presented. one was an elderly priest. Another was a young mother. Another was a high level executive, and one a famouse athlete.

    I refused to do if because as a nurse it would never be my decision to make. I was told I could be terminated for insubordination for refusing an excercise by an outside consultant. (This was before we joined the union).

    As a second grader in public school the teacher had the class pray that the devil would leave me. Her "evidence" that I was possessed by the devil was that I bit my fingernails. After I went home and told my Mommy she went to the school. The teacher never did that again. But almost daily, and every Friday when I got 100% on the spelling test she told me not to think I was special just because my father was a teacher at the high school.

    I'm glad the student spoke up. His professor needs to know he was wrong.
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    University Apologizes for 'Stomp on Jesus' Lesson

    A Florida academic institution that had a professor tell his students to write the name Jesus on paper and trample on it has issued a formal apology for the lesson.

    "This exercise will not be used again. The University holds dear its core values. We sincerely apologize for any offense this caused," said Florida Atlantic University, a multi-campus institution, in a prepared statement posted on its website.
    "Florida Atlantic University respects all religions and welcomes people of all faiths, backgrounds and beliefs."
    FAU also stated that "no students were forced to take part in the exercise" and "that no student has been expelled, suspended or disciplined by the University as a result of any activity that took place during this class." ...

    Read more at http://www.christianpost.com/news/un...ZuRbML8k6U4.99
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    herring, thank you for putting this incident in a clearer perspective.
    unless the media omitted such pertinent info, i do wonder if professor poole followed through on the suggestion of the teacher's guide...
    by discussing the student's refusal, and the feelings it evoked.

    of course he should have never been suspended (going on info received) and am glad fau apologized.

    what i don't understand is why this had to be politicized?
    people use poor judgment a lot...and it has nothing to do with political ideology.
    it's too bad the media and its followers, feel the need to further divide this nation.
    it's certainly not just this story...
    but yeah, i do despise politics for this very reason.

    leslie
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    So, the teacher decided stepping on Jesus was a good addition to the exercise? If so, then the teacher needs some disciplining also.
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    Quote from tntrn
    So, the teacher decided stepping on Jesus was a good addition to the exercise? If so, then the teacher needs some disciplining also.
    The exercise states, "Have the students write the name JESUS in big letters on a piece of paper.
    Ask the students to stand up and put the paper on the floor in front of them with the name facing up. Ask the students to think about it for a moment.
    After a brief period of silence, instruct them to step on the paper.
    Most will hesitate.
    Ask why they can’t step on the paper.
    Discuss the importance of symbols in culture.”


    There is nothing in the exercise forcing a student yo step on the paper.

    When I took cultural anthropology a Native American speaker came to class. She looked at bones on display in a case and asked, "Are those my ancestors? Bones of my ancestors are on display at the Tar Pits Museum.
    How would you feel if someone went to the Veterans Cemetery, dug up bones, and put them on display?"


    The discussion may be worthwhile, but that professor is not competent to lead such a discussion.

    In my opinion.
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    Quote from leslie :-D
    what i don't understand is why this had to be politicized?
    people use poor judgment a lot...and it has nothing to do with political ideology.
    it's too bad the media and its followers, feel the need to further divide this nation.
    it's certainly not just this story...
    but yeah, i do despise politics for this very reason.

    leslie
    There are a lot of stories out there designed to provoke outrage...............they're always half stories, kind of like the "nurse refuses CPR to save dying woman" thing a month back.
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    Quote from herring_RN
    The exercise states, "Have the students write the name JESUS in big letters on a piece of paper.
    Ask the students to stand up and put the paper on the floor in front of them with the name facing up. Ask the students to think about it for a moment.
    After a brief period of silence, instruct them to step on the paper.
    Most will hesitate.
    Ask why they can’t step on the paper.
    Discuss the importance of symbols in culture.”


    There is nothing in the exercise forcing a student yo step on the paper.

    When I took cultural anthropology a Native American speaker came to class. She looked at bones on display in a case and asked, "Are those my ancestors? Bones of my ancestors are on display at the Tar Pits Museum.
    How would you feel if someone went to the Veterans Cemetery, dug up bones, and put them on display?"


    The discussion may be worthwhile, but that professor is not competent to lead such a discussion.

    In my opinion.
    I agree - that professor made a huge error.

    I too have had exercises similar to this - all to start a discussion. But no one is forced to do anything. Or suspended for deciding not to engage in the exercise.

    (I have to say that there are unqualified folks in every walk of life but since starting at the school district I've seen some things that make me wonder how a person was ever hired).
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    Quote from herring_RN
    The exercise states, "Have the students write the name JESUS in big letters on a piece of paper.
    Ask the students to stand up and put the paper on the floor in front of them with the name facing up. Ask the students to think about it for a moment.
    After a brief period of silence, instruct them to step on the paper.
    Most will hesitate.
    Ask why they can’t step on the paper.
    Discuss the importance of symbols in culture.”


    There is nothing in the exercise forcing a student yo step on the paper.

    When I took cultural anthropology a Native American speaker came to class. She looked at bones on display in a case and asked, "Are those my ancestors? Bones of my ancestors are on display at the Tar Pits Museum.
    How would you feel if someone went to the Veterans Cemetery, dug up bones, and put them on display?"


    The discussion may be worthwhile, but that professor is not competent to lead such a discussion.

    In my opinion.

    I bolded that part of this post. It should also be noted that the exercise (or apparently school policy) doesn't include any requirement that a student be suspended for NOT stepping on the paper, for being told to stay out of contact with other students in any way.

    Why was this teacher not disciplined, perhaps with suspension or let go?
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    something sounds very *off* about this story.

    "Rotella said he voiced his concerns to his teacher's supervisor and later learned he was suspended from the class."
    FAU Student Claims He Was Suspended For Refusing To Step On Jesus « CBS Miami

    did rotella voice his concerns to the teacher first?
    if so, was he dissatisfied with the outcome and then went to the supervisor?
    and then he "later" learned he had been suspended?
    it *sounds* like the supervisor listened to his side, then likely the professor...and THEN decided to suspend.
    i have a hunch there is more to this story.
    i am not understanding this, and sense some crucial parts are missing.

    and this is why i am reserving judgment against the teacher for now.
    i'd be curious to know the whole story and nothing but the story, so help me God.

    leslie
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