New powers to use the military worldwide, even within the United States?
2Nov 29, '11 by herring_RN Guide- aclu - while nearly all americans head to family and friends to celebrate thanksgiving, the senate is gearing up for a vote on monday or tuesday that goes to the very heart of who we are as americans. the senate will be voting on a bill that will direct american military resources not at an enemy shooting at our military in war zone, but at american citizens and other civilians far from any battlefield-even people in the united states itself....
... the senate is going to vote on whether congress will give this president--and every future president-the power to order the military to pick up and imprison without charge or trial civilians anywhere in the world. even rep. ron paul (r-texas) raised his concerns about the ndaa detention provisions during last night's republican debate. the power is so broad that even u.s. citizens could be swept up by the military and the military could be used far from any battlefield, even within the united states itself.
the worldwide indefinite detention without charge or trial provision is in s. 1867, the national defense authorization act bill, which will be on the senate floor on monday. the bill was drafted in secret by sens. carl levin (d-mich.) and john mccain (r-ariz.) and passed in a closed-door committee meeting, without even a single hearing....
senators demand the military lock up of american citizens in a "battlefield" they define as being right outside your window
- white house statement - http://www.whitehouse.gov/sites/defa...s_20111117.pdf
- fbi - http://thehill.com/blogs/defcon-hill...detainee-rules
- senator udall introduced an amendment - http://www.markudall.com/content/pag...nee_amendment#
- text of the bill - http://www.gpo.gov/fdsys/pkg/bills-1...12s1867pcs.pdf
0Dec 1, '11 by herring_RN Guidesenate votes to let military detain americans indefinitely, white house threatens veto
washington -- the senate voted tuesday to keep a controversial provision to let the military detain terrorism suspects on u.s. soil and hold them indefinitely without trial -- prompting white house officials to reissue a veto threat.
the measure, part of the massive national defense authorization act, was also opposed by civil libertarians on the left and right. but 16 democrats and an independent joined with republicans to defeat an amendment by sen. mark udall (d-colo.) that would have killed the provision, voting it down with 61 against, and 37 for it.
"i'm very, very, concerned about having u.s. citizens sent to guantanamo bay for indefinite detention," said sen. rand paul (r-ky.), one of the senate's most conservative members.
paul's top complaint is that a terrorism suspect would get just one hearing where the military could assert that the person is a suspected terrorist -- and then they could be locked up for life, without ever formally being charged. the only safety valve is a waiver from the secretary of defense.
"it's not enough just to be alleged to be a terrorist," paul said, echoing the views of the american civil liberties union. "that's part of what due process is -- deciding, are you a terrorist? i think it's important that we not allow u.s. citizens to be taken."...