More Than 10,000 Protest Move By Wisconsin's Governor to Destroy Public-Sector Unions - page 5

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the state capitol was awash tuesday in protests as thousands gathered to voice opposition to a bill by gov. scott walker that would greatly weaken organized labor in wisconsin. more than 10,000 protesters crowded the... Read More


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    WI House Dems Warn Gov. Walker Not To Cross NFL Packers | TPM
    The reason state workers are so outraged by Gov. Walker's actions, Rep. Ron Kind (D-WI) said, is because they spent all last year negotiating and making $100 million in concessions with then-Democratic Gov. Jim Doyle only to have Republicans state legislators kill that bill then have a new governor come in and deny their negotiating rights.

    "[Walker] didn't even come back and sit down with them," Kind told TPM. "Public employees are willing to contribute their pound of flesh. He wasn't even willing to talk to the teacher unions despite 17 separate requests from them for meetings with him."
    This problem doesn't have anything to do with public employee benefits and to say otherwise is totally disingenuous. It's part of the GOP talking points to take the pressure off Gov. Walker and to turn public opinion against the workers. Gov. Walker created this crisis by cutting taxes on the rich and lying about a budget shortfall so he could break the unions, period. He refused to negotiate with the workers and basically said, "It's my way or the highway."

    He tried to pass the budget in one week and the Democrats had to leave to prevent this union-busting bill from passing. The Democrats are standing up for worker's rights against the GOP, the Club for Growth, and the Koch Industry billionaires (All of this is detailed in Ed Schultz's first video on my post number 33).
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    Quote from mediajunkie650
    [(All of this is detailed in Ed Schultz's first video on my post number 33).
    And Ed Schultz is such a fine upstanding honest sort.
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    Quote from tntrn
    And Ed Schultz is such a fine upstanding honest sort.
    You're damn right...
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    Luckily we still retain the right to have our own beliefs, thoughts, and yes, the right to protest. Interesting that we, and I would include myself in this, tend to believe those we find most believeable. It's one of the benefits of freedom.

    I do have a big problem with PAID protestors being bussed in by the thousands. Who is paying for THAT? And is that their job or have they walked away from their own jobs to do this?
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    please explain "paid protestors". who is paying them?
    ...according to wisconsin campaign finance filings, walker's gubernatorial campaign received $43,000 from the koch industries pac during the 2010 election. that donation was his campaign's second-highest, behind $43,125 in contributions from housing and realtor groups in wisconsin.


    the koch's pac also helped walker via a familiar and much-used politicial maneuver designed to allow donors to skirt campaign finance limits. the pac gave $1 million to the republican governors association, which in turn spent $65,000 on independent expenditures to support walker.


    the rga also spent a whopping $3.4 million on tv ads and mailers attacking walker's opponent, milwaukee mayor tom barrett. walker ended up beating barrett by 5 points. the koch money, no doubt, helped greatly....

    http://motherjones.com/mojo/2011/02/...-koch-brothers
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    The real Republican strategy - Economics - Salon.com

    The Republican strategy is to split the vast middle and working class -- pitting unionized workers against non-unionized, public-sector workers against non-public, older workers within sight of Medicare and Social Security against younger workers who don't believe these programs will be there for them, and the poor against the working middle class.


    By splitting working America along these lines, Republicans hope to deflect attention from the big story. That's the increasing share of total income and wealth going to the richest 1 percent while the jobs and wages of everyone else languish.


    Republicans would rather no one notice their campaign to generate further tax cuts for the rich -- making the Bush tax cuts permanent, further reducing the estate tax, and allowing the wealthy to shift ever more of their income into capital gains taxed at 15 percent.
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    déjà vu Greece, France, Ireland... Happening here in the States much sooner than I thought...
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    WI House Dems Warn Gov. Walker Not To Cross NFL Packers | TPM

    This problem doesn't have anything to do with public employee benefits and to say otherwise is totally disingenuous. It's part of the GOP talking points to take the pressure off Gov. Walker and to turn public opinion against the workers. Gov. Walker created this crisis by cutting taxes on the rich and lying about a budget shortfall so he could break the unions, period. He refused to negotiate with the workers and basically said, "It's my way or the highway."
    There are consequences to elections.
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    [T]he Democrats had to leave to prevent this union-busting bill from passing.
    Although we all should agree, I suspect some won't agree with this tongue-in-cheek response:

    Strangely, Walker has sent the police to find them, but I don’t get why. I guess they’re needed to finalize the bill, but there has to be some way around that. It’s just when you hear the Democrat legislators have fled your state, it’s really odd that your first response would be, “How do I get them back?” The smarter response is, “Can we nationalize this?” We need to find what laws will get Democrats to flee from all the other states and what will cause Obama to leave the White House and run and hide. And if these chase away the Democrats, bills are passed in every state, eventually the Democrats will have no option but to flee to Canada — and they’ll probably be much happier there. We certainly will be.
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    If I were to call in sick to my job, but then go to a public protest, rather than my doctor's office or ER, I would rightfully be fired. And I work for a private employer.

    Why should this fraudulent, unethical and immoral conduct be tolerated of public sector employees, paid by tax dollars?

    They need to repay the sick time, write letters of apology, and if they are allowed to keep their jobs, protest on their own time.

    Does anyone else find it ironic that teachers, who claim to be taking action "for the good of the children," have shut down the very schools where these children are to be educated? Go figure.
    Last edit by Jolie on Feb 18, '11
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