Boston College and Condoms

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    An effort by Boston College administrators to shut down a student-run program to distribute condoms and provide information on safe sex could end up in court, Boston media outlets are reporting.

    School officials sent a letter this month threatening disciplinary action to students behind "Safe Sites," the network of dorm rooms serving as outlets for condoms, lubricants and other material.

    The students were told the effort conflicts with the "responsibility to protect the values and traditions of Boston College as a Jesuit, Catholic institution."

    The letter was signed by Dean of Students Paul Chebator and George Arey, director of residence life.

    ACLU attorney Sarah Wunsch told WBZ the group may take legal action if the school presses the issue.
    http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/n...eaway/2023995/

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    I'm going to go out on a limb here, so be prepared!

    Several years ago, the university where my husband teaches had a policy of placing individually wrapped brightly colored condoms in a big fishtank in the infirmary waiting area where the students could quietly help themselves. Then the dreaded ___ was hired to replace the nurse who moved away. ___ was my mom's age and promptly did away with the fishtank and made the kids ASK HER! She only gave one at a time! ___ killed the free condom plan in no time at all.

    On my days off, I would eat in the snack bar with my husband at lunch time. I must have looked approachable as I read and waited for him because the braver students began to ask me to buy them condoms, if they gave me the money.

    Never having bought a condom in my entire life, I bought an entire gross at our neighbor's drugstore. Since the neighbor knew my husband had had a vasectomy, he was naturally curious and I 'fessed up. Sweet man that he is, he suggested the number and gave me the "institutional rate."

    He also had a discreet word with the college president (also a neighbor) who found a young "with it" nurse for the next semester and soon the fishbowl was back again.

    All of our "kids" have fur but I firmly believe that if you are old enough to be having any type of sex at all, not only intercourse, you absolutely MUST practice safe sex. With the STDs out there waiting to be caught, one absolutely must be protected. I remember when I was in college, my parents told me not to have s-e-x, then assumed that I wouldn't because they had said not to, but being a fairly typical child of the end of the '60's and early '70's, I eventually gave in to temptation. I never caught anything but the risks are very much higher today and I'd much rather have my theoretical children use condoms with a back-up form of birth control and remain disease (and unwanted pregnancy free) than contact some incurable plague that will haunt them for the rest of their lives if not kill them.
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    I think it's absolutely ridiculous that the school would "punish" these students for promoting sexual health. Not promoting sexual activity, but protecting the health of those who do engage in sex. Discouraging contraception leads to unsafe sex; it doesn't prevent sex. I understand that it is a Catholic institution and they may choose to ban their Health Services from distributing contraception (although I don't agree with this), but please do not take discplinary action against students who want to protect themselves and their classmates. The kicker to me is that this is all coming from a religious group that has been mired in sexual scandal, abuse, and cover ups. Very hypocritical, in my opinion. Time to evolve!
    Last edit by BCgradnurse on Mar 30, '13
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    I'm not a fan of just handing out any kind of birth control without having some conversation about the risks and responsiblities of sex.

    You've heard me before talk about the . . I'm going to call them girls because let's face it, they are young and immature . . . the girls who took home Plan B in a brown paper bag from PP and put the bag on their bedside table and used that emergency kind of birth control instead of going on birth control. These were friends of my daughter - in college - having sex with many partners. The bags were placed in the waiting room of PP - like condoms in a fishbowl - and no conversation was had about using this plan ALL the time.

    I'm in favor of talking to kids about the risks and responsibilities of having sex outside of marriage. I'm not crazy about JUST handing out condoms and Plan B.

    As to this institution - if it is private and religious, it can do what it pleases. My oldest son went to a more liberal Christian university and they did as they pleased as well.
    Kylee B likes this.
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    I dunno,
    these kids are old enough to make significant life choices, and they do regularly. They remain immature and continue to require guidance...that should be where the parents have influence, as well as any university staff who develop caring relationships with them.
    As a more progressive/libertarian kind of person it seems pragmatic to provide the tools to prevent disease and pregnancy to these young adults and allow their parental units to interact as they will.

    Afterall, if the students quit because of illness or pregnancy it affects the bottom line of the college, right?
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    Boston College is a PRIVATE JESUIT university. They can do whatever they like. If the students don't like the rules they need to go somewhere else. End of story!
    Kylee B likes this.
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    Quote from 22gawhitacre
    Boston College is a PRIVATE JESUIT university. They can do whatever they like. If the students don't like the rules they need to go somewhere else. End of story!
    To some degree, yes. Students are free to go to another school at any time. But BC tried to stop these students from distributing condoms on a public way, outside the college. The students had contacted the town's police department and had a valid permit for this action. Campus police tried to stop the students but town police intervened, as the campus police had no jurisdiction on public ways.

    This has been a long standing battle between the students and the college. Four years ago, an agreement was reached between students and university officials where the students could have "safe zones" in dorms where condoms could be distributed. The college officials have now reneged on that agreement. Faculty, staff, and students overwhelmingly support the availability of sexual health information and contraception on campus. Again, I understand it is a Jesuit school and they are within their rights to not prescribe and/or distribute contraception in their health service if they so desire, but this is a separate, legal activity that the students have chosen to help safeguard their peers.

    I went to nursing school at BC. I find it confusing that we were taught about contraception and yes, pregnancy termination. They have a Women's Health NP track. You can't have that without discussing birth control. They must teach these subjects in order to be accredited, and so that students are equipped to pass NCLEX and NP boards. Nursing is one of the biggest programs at BC, and they would lose a great deal financially if this program ceased to exist. So, it's ok to discuss and teach contraception in class, even though it is against Catholic doctrine, because they have to to keep their nursing program. But, students are forbidden from simply distributing condoms because that is against Catholic doctrine. Huh??? Seems like morals of convenience to me.
    justin.j, aknottedyarn, Rose_Queen, and 4 others like this.
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    again, don't like the rules then leave. It really is that simple.
    Quote from BCgradnurse
    To some degree, yes. Students are free to go to another school at any time. But BC tried to stop these students from distributing condoms on a public way, outside the college. The students had contacted the town's police department and had a valid permit for this action. Campus police tried to stop the students but town police intervened, as the campus police had no jurisdiction on public ways.

    This has been a long standing battle between the students and the college. Four years ago, an agreement was reached between students and university officials where the students could have "safe zones" in dorms where condoms could be distributed. The college officials have now reneged on that agreement. Faculty, staff, and students overwhelmingly support the availability of sexual health information and contraception on campus. Again, I understand it is a Jesuit school and they are within their rights to not prescribe and/or distribute contraception in their health service if they so desire, but this is a separate, legal activity that the students have chosen to help safeguard their peers.

    I went to nursing school at BC. I find it confusing that we were taught about contraception and yes, pregnancy termination. They have a Women's Health NP track. You can't have that without discussing birth control. They must teach these subjects in order to be accredited, and so that students are equipped to pass NCLEX and NP boards. Nursing is one of the biggest programs at BC, and they would lose a great deal financially if this program ceased to exist. So, it's ok to discuss and teach contraception in class, even though it is against Catholic doctrine, because they have to to keep their nursing program. But, students are forbidden from simply distributing condoms because that is against Catholic doctrine. Huh??? Seems like morals of convenience to me.
    Kylee B likes this.
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    I think you're taking the easy way out, 22gawhiteacre.
    sharpeimom likes this.
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    Quote from BCgradnurse
    I think you're taking the easy way out, 22gawhiteacre.
    please forgive him.
    i do believe it's the best he can come up with, when backed against a wall.

    leslie
    nursej22, sharpeimom, and tewdles like this.


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