Australia: Intersex reforms pave way forward

  1. 2 Groundbreaking new guidelines on recognising intersex, transgender and gender-diverse people in official documents could represent a major step forward in sex and gender-diverse rights recognition.

    Released by the federal government on Thursday, the Guidelines on the Recognition of Sex and Gender give individuals the option to select male, female or 'X' when asked to supply gender information on personal records, with 'X' being defined as "indeterminate, intersex or unspecified".

    The guidelines, which come into force on July 1, also recognise that some people may wish to have different gender/sex specifications on different documents, allowing intersex and gender non-specific people to register as male or female on their passports to ensure their safety when travelling overseas. ...

    ... The guidelines urge departments and agencies to bear people's privacy in mind, stating that information on a person's sex or gender should only be collected when there is a legitimate reason for doing so, and that agencies should "ensure individuals are generally aware of the purpose for which the information is being collected". ...


    http://www.starobserver.com.au/news/...forward/105259
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    ... The guidelines urge departments and agencies to bear people’s privacy in mind, stating that information on a person’s sex or gender should only be collected when there is a legitimate reason for doing so, and that agencies should “ensure individuals are generally aware of the purpose for which the information is being collected”. ...


    Intersex reforms pave way forward - Star Observer
    I like this. Every paper you sign, every thing I seem to find wants to know what sex I am. Unless it involves fit for clothing or other gender specific issue why do I have to say?

    I am female. So what. We have all seen how females have been discriminated against in many situations. perhaps now it is not as overt but still present.

    My DSis did not get into vet school because they had only 3 slots for females and she did not get any of those slots. Not that she was not qualified or not ranked higher than many of the men. her only issue was being female. Becoming slicker does not mean it has gone away.

    Claim any sex or deny any sex. it should not matter. Those who wish to change sex or are in the process are no different than any one else. Recognize the person.
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    One person said, "What difference does it make for a library card?
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    I remember several years ago a poster here told us about when her kids were born abroad. No one asked for their race when it came time to do birth certificates.

    It would be really nice if - one day soon - it wouldn't matter how a person chooses to self-define their race or sex, that they could just be who they are and have equal rights. Good on Australia.
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    I remember several years ago a poster here told us about when her kids were born abroad. No one asked for their race when it came time to do birth certificates.

    It would be really nice if - one day soon - it wouldn't matter how a person chooses to self-define their race or sex, that they could just be who they are and have equal rights. Good on Australia.
    My son's birth certificate has his father's race wrong. A volunteer had asked the questions when while I breast fed him before leaving the hospital. His name, SS#, address, and occupation are correct. The "old lady" (about my current age) didn't ask his race. She just saw my fair skinned baby and wrote "Caucasian".

    What gets me is there is a choice under "race" for "non hispanic White" and another for "Hispanic" How is the language spoken in your ancestors country of origin a "race"?
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    I find it disturbing to think that someone can change their "sex" from one to another depending on their mood. Does this mean I could say I am a man if that were to my benefit? And if it were to my benefit to say I am a man, would that not be discrimination at work?
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    I find it disturbing to think that someone can change their "sex" from one to another depending on their mood. Does this mean I could say I am a man if that were to my benefit? And if it were to my benefit to say I am a man, would that not be discrimination at work?
    Some people are assigned the wrong gender at birth. The woman whose cliterus looks like a penis is but one example.
    During childhood or puberty these people often come to identify as a boy or as a girl. It is not a whim.

    But even it it is a transexual with or without surgery and/or hormone treatments doesn't that person still qualify as a citizen?
    Wouldn't a picture ID be enough?

    I know a woman who went through what seemed to her to be abuse in order to get a passport because her birth certificate had her as a male.

    Open a link to understand why some people change their legal gender. It is not always a "whim".

    Intersex: MedlinePlus Medical Encyclopedia

    AIS: http://www.isna.org/faq/conditions/ais
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    Changing it and keeping it that way is one thing: putting one thing on one document and the opposite on another document is another.
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    Changing it and keeping it that way is one thing: putting one thing on one document and the opposite on another document is another.
    Australians have that option.
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    Australians have that option.
    Yes, and that is I find disturbing and not just a little bit weird.
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    Double posted by accident.
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    Yes, and that is I find disturbing and not just a little bit weird.
    Do you know any intersex people?
    I do. And probably know other people who keep their genitals secret.

    Gender is not 100% binary. Many people have been raised as a girl or boy. Then it is found at some age they are not 100% either. Their gender is chosen for them by a doctor and parents. Then as an adult they realize the wrong gender was assigned.

    It is unusual, but there are many intersex babies born. Apparantly many intersex people in Australia have been "coming out". There are support groups for them and for parents on intersex children.

    What if It's (Sort of) a Boy and (Sort of) a Girl?http://www.nytimes.com/2006/09/24/ma...anted=all&_r=0
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    The guidelines, which come into force on July 1, also recognise that some people may wish to have different gender/sex specifications on different documents, allowing intersex and gender non-specific people to register as male or female on their passports to ensure their safety when travelling overseas. ...
    I don't know any. Any that I am aware of, at any rate.

    But that is neither here nor there, as far as my statement is concerned. The above is what concerns me and I do find it disturbing.

    From what that says, I could claim to be a man on my Library Card, but a woman on my passport. What possible sense does that make?


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