14 Wacky "Facts" Kids Will Learn in Louisiana's Voucher Schools | allnurses

14 Wacky "Facts" Kids Will Learn in Louisiana's Voucher Schools

  1. 1 Under Gov. Bobby Jindal's voucher program, considered the most sweeping in the country, Louisiana is poised to spend tens of millions of dollars to help poor and middle-class students from the state's notoriously terrible public schools receive a private education. While the governor's plan sounds great in the glittery parlance of the state's PR machine, the program is rife with accountability problems that actually haven't been solved by the new standards the Louisiana Department of Education adopted two weeks ago. ...

    ... Many of these schools, Kopplin notes, rely on Pensacola-based A Beka Book curriculum or Bob Jones University Press textbooks to teach their pupils Bible-based "facts," such as the existence of Nessie the Loch Ness Monster and all sorts of pseudoscience that researcher Rachel Tabachnick and writer Thomas Vinciguerra have thankfully pored over so the rest of world doesn't have to. ...

    ... Dinosaurs and humans were definitely on the earth at the same time ...

    ... "God used the Trail of Tears to bring many Indians to Christ."-- ...

    ... The majority of slave holders treated their slaves well ...

    ... It is no wonder that Satan hates the family and has hurled his venom against it in the form of Communism ...

    ... [The Ku Klux] Klan in some areas of the country tried to be a means of reform, fighting the decline in morality and using the symbol of the cross. Klan targets were bootleggers, wife-beaters, and immoral movies. In some communities it achieved a certain respectability as it worked with politicians ...

    ... Gay people "have no more claims to special rights than child molesters or rapists." ...

    ... Perhaps the best known work of propaganda to come from the Depression was John Steinbeck's The Grapes of Wrath...
    Other forms of propaganda included rumors of mortgage foreclosures, mass evictions, and hunger riots and exaggerated statistics representing the number of unemployed and homeless people in America." ...

    http://www.motherjones.com/blue-marb...na-tax-dollars
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  3. Visit  TopazLover profile page
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    This is too strange for the Onion.

    How people can logically read this and not think it is a joke is beyond me.

    The things that Bulies are teethed on before they go for ropes and chains for people of color, LGBT, and everyone who does not think the way they do.
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    Quote from aknottedyarn
    How people can logically read this and not think it is a joke is beyond me.

    The things that Bulies are teethed on before they go for ropes and chains for people of color, LGBT, and everyone who does not think the way they do.
    Is your response a joke as well? What is a "Bulie?" I googled the term and got nothing. I wonder who could possibly be worthy of the description you gave, so I'll have to ask you to explain it.
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    Voucher school history book: Hippies didn't bathe, worshipped Satan

    http://americablog.com/2013/03/vouch...ped-satan.html

  6. Visit  Esme12 profile page
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    Quote from Jolie
    Is your response a joke as well? What is a "Bulie?" I googled the term and got nothing. I wonder who could possibly be worthy of the description you gave, so I'll have to ask you to explain it.
    I think she meant bullies...it's a typo.....
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    Quote from aknottedyarn
    The things that Bulies are teethed on before they go for ropes and chains for people of color, LGBT, and everyone who does not think the way they do.
    You suggest that students at this school will be trained for lynching minorities, gays and "everyone who does not think the way they do."
    Take a look in the mirror. You are stereotyping and espousing hatred. Their curriculum may need revision, no argument there. So does your writing.

    I get differences in political ideology. I get passion about publicly funded education. But this accusation is beneath contempt and unworthy of publication on a site representing an honorable profession..Please retract this immediately so as not to damage the reputation of the good people represented on this site, as well as good people seeking to improve their children's education


    You would have us believe that students, parents and school planners seeking an alternative to abysmal public schools are the intolerant ones? Ironic.
    Last edit by Esme12 on Mar 8, '13
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  8. Visit  leslie :-D profile page
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    Quote from Jolie
    You suggest that students at this school will be trained for lynching minorities, gays and "everyone who does not think the way they do."

    Take a look in the mirror. You are stereotyping and espousing hatred. Their curriculum may need revision, no argument there. So does your writing.

    I get differences in political ideology. I get passion about publicly funded education. But this accusation is beneath contempt and unworthy of publication on a site representing an honorable profession. Please retract this immediately so as not to damage the reputation of the good people represented on this site, as well as good people seeking to improve their children's education.

    You would have us believe that students, parents and school planners seeking an alternative to abysmal public schools are the intolerant ones? Ironic.
    gosh, i feel sooo darned slow.
    jolie, would you kindly point out to me where aky suggests "that students at this school will be trained lynching minorities, gays and 'everyone who does not think they way they do."
    where did she say this?

    you know the drill.
    if you take offense at a post, report it.

    leslie
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  9. Visit  leslie :-D profile page
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    let them teach what they want...
    but NOT on the taxpayer's dime.
    how incredibly arrogant...
    and i feel badly for the forthcoming students who will be subjected to a lot of utter nonsense.

    leslie
  10. Visit  TopazLover profile page
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    I have no problem with alternative education that is fact and science based. When it is based on ignorance that can and has been used to bully (sorry I had a typo and it confused anyone). Education is to teach children how to explore learning not just to teach what is to be learned. When absolutely incorrect "facts" are presented as truth the children who get this education will never be ready to be part of the 21st century and will more likely revert to 19th and 20th century xenophobic behaviors.

    To try to exonerate a hate group like the KKK, and call the trappings of the Depression propaganda is beyond the pale.

    To call this education is to ignore all that education encompasses.

    Again, alternative education does not have to include lies, and hate talk. If one wishes to go to a religion sponsored education I have no problem. My SO and all his children are products of a great educational system. Near us is an alternative education program only for children of broken families. These are private schools, one religious, the other not. Our state has the greatest percentage of students in private schools. These alternative programs prepare students for the future, not the past. Alternative does not mean it has to be inferior. Use of books with examples such as shared will create education that is inferior because it does not encourage children to think for themselves, and focuses on poor review of history.
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  11. Visit  Spidey's mom profile page
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    Quote from aknottedyarn
    This is too strange for the Onion.

    How people can logically read this and not think it is a joke is beyond me.

    The things that Bulies are teethed on before they go for ropes and chains for people of color, LGBT, and everyone who does not think the way they do.
    My response was about the same as Jolie when I read this especially because I used some A Beka curriculum when I homeschooled my kids.

    I don't think it is fair to connect bullying, "ropes and chains for people of color, LGBT, and everyone who does not think the way they do" automatically with people who chose to use Christian curriculum for their kids.

    We simply all have to stop stereotyping and lumping most good people in with a few bad apples. That's Jolie's point I believe.

    Using A Beka does not = ugly, intolerant behavior.

    Simple as that.

    A Beka Book :: Excellence in Education from a Christian Perspective
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    Quote from Spidey's mom
    We simply all have to stop stereotyping and lumping most good people in with a few bad apples. That's Jolie's point I believe.

    Using A Beka does not = ugly, intolerant behavior.

    Simple as that.
    i am curious...who would the "few bad apples" be?
    those who believe these "wacky facts"?

    there are many who would disagree with you...that using a beka doesn't = "ugly, intolerant behavior".
    did you read herring's posts/links?

    i am most curious about whether you would be upset if your child received a voucher to a private school that taught Islamic eduction?

    why is it so difficult to understand that 1. this is not a Christian nation, and 2. a good majority of people find these 'wacky facts' et al, incredibly offensive and inappropriate for taxpayers to fund this education?

    leslie
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    Quote from herring_RN
    Under Gov. Bobby Jindal's voucher program, considered the most sweeping in the country, Louisiana is poised to spend tens of millions of dollars to help poor and middle-class students from the state's notoriously terrible public schools receive a private education. While the governor's plan sounds great in the glittery parlance of the state's PR machine, the program is rife with accountability problems that actually haven't been solved by the new standards the Louisiana Department of Education adopted two weeks ago. ...

    ... Many of these schools, Kopplin notes, rely on Pensacola-based A Beka Book curriculum or Bob Jones University Press textbooks to teach their pupils Bible-based "facts," such as the existence of Nessie the Loch Ness Monster and all sorts of pseudoscience that researcher Rachel Tabachnick and writer Thomas Vinciguerra have thankfully pored over so the rest of world doesn't have to. ...

    ... Dinosaurs and humans were definitely on the earth at the same time ...

    ... "God used the Trail of Tears to bring many Indians to Christ."-- ...

    ... The majority of slave holders treated their slaves well ...

    ... It is no wonder that Satan hates the family and has hurled his venom against it in the form of Communism ...

    ... [The Ku Klux] Klan in some areas of the country tried to be a means of reform, fighting the decline in morality and using the symbol of the cross. Klan targets were bootleggers, wife-beaters, and immoral movies. In some communities it achieved a certain respectability as it worked with politicians ...

    ... Gay people "have no more claims to special rights than child molesters or rapists." ...

    ... Perhaps the best known work of propaganda to come from the Depression was John Steinbeck's The Grapes of Wrath...
    Other forms of propaganda included rumors of mortgage foreclosures, mass evictions, and hunger riots and exaggerated statistics representing the number of unemployed and homeless people in America." ...

    14 Wacky "Facts" Kids Will Learn in Louisiana's Voucher Schools | Mother Jones
    Hmmm... Are you sure you are a nurse and not a rep for the teachers union? I ask this because my state is looking into the same thing. Not to ensure school children revert back to the thinking of the 1950's, but because the public school system in some areas is so bad the kids are graduating without being able to read or do math at a 9th grade level, if they graduate at all. The teachers unions are having a fit. If they were only this outraged about the product their members were putting out. Their outrage is over the money the public school system will lose, therefore losing teachers, therefore losing union dues. It all boils down to money. The fact is a much higher percentage of private school graduates go on to graduate college.

    Don't worry so much about what they will learn in high school. After 4 years the liberal college professors will teach them that making money is evil, owning "stuff" is wrong, everything they do is ok, and the United States is the worse country in the world and Americans deserve everything that happens to us.
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  14. Visit  MunoRN profile page
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    Quote from Jolie
    You suggest that students at this school will be trained for lynching minorities, gays and "everyone who does not think the way they do."

    Take a look in the mirror. You are stereotyping and espousing hatred. Their curriculum may need revision, no argument there. So does your writing.

    I get differences in political ideology. I get passion about publicly funded education. But this accusation is beneath contempt and unworthy of publication on a site representing an honorable profession. Please retract this immediately so as not to damage the reputation of the good people represented on this site, as well as good people seeking to improve their children's education.

    You would have us believe that students, parents and school planners seeking an alternative to abysmal public schools are the intolerant ones? Ironic.
    I would agree that it would be unfair claim something was supporting intolerance just because it's not a traditional education, however that's not the case here. Teaching kids that we should view gays with the same level of tolerance as we view child molesters or rapists is teaching intolerance, plain and simple. I don't think it's a stretch to argue that teaching kids such things makes it more likely those kids will be less tolerant of gays, do you argue that it won't?
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