Why GOP hates Obamacare so much?

  1. 2 I really don't understand why all the fuss. I guess it's just political bickering. We don't know what Obamacare will bring until is tested for a while. Can anyone explain why we don't like it? Why we shouldn't have it? As far as I know it's a good thing. What is bad about people without health insurance to have one at a price the can effort? Can anyone explain to me how Obamacare is going to be bad?

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  4. Visit  VickyRN profile page
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    Moved to US Politics Forum, as better suited to this topic
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  5. Visit  OfficerRNBSN profile page
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    If nothing else, Obamacare is yet another example of the federal government dabbling in affairs that are not its concern. The U.S. is a republic, and a republic is ran according to written law. A democracy, or mobocracy, is a form of government that bends and sways based on the emotions of the people. In essence, a democracy isn't as stable. A republic is.

    With that point made, there is absolutely no point in requiring everyone to have health insurance. Heck, I don't even like Medicaid so clearly I'm against taxing the nation even more to provide everyone with insurance. I work for mine. Others should do the same. Healthcare ought to be a private, paid service just like any other service that you could provide. If one's rates are higher then so be it. That's life. We're NOT all equal and trying to treat everyone as they were is ridiculous. Obamacare is as stupid as No Child Left Behind. People of varying health conditions should not pay the same insurance premiums. Insurance companies are businesses existing to make money. That's their prerogative.

    Finally, Obamacare focuses more on giving people stuff thus throwing more goodies at the mobocracy. Giving people insurance seems to be the focus rather than examining the costs of healthcare. Instead of wasting time and tax dollars on a non-issue why can't Obama sit down, stop taking vacations, and focus on a macro / federal issue such as funding the American government, balancing the budget, and paying down the deficit. He gets so wrapped up in these micro, emotional, individual topics rather than issues of NATIONAL importance.

    OfficerRNBSN, Conservative Republican.
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  6. Visit  OCNRN63 profile page
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    I'm sure this will be argued in some manner or another.

    WATCH: Which U.S. president took the most vacation time?
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  7. Visit  tntrn profile page
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    1. It is misnamed, as it is proving to be NOT affordable. Premiums are going up.
    2. People are losing work hours as a result, making it even less affordable although Nancy Pelosi deems that loss of income and work hours as a chance to follow a passion.
    3. You can't necessarily keep your insurance plan if you like it.
    4. Your doctor may not be willing to treat you anymore because of new rules.
    5. Services you used to be able to count on might not be available to you anymore.
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  8. Visit  herring_RN profile page
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    Employer health insurance premiums are increasing slower in recent years compared to the previous decade according to a survey commissioned by the American Hospital Association: Employer Health Coverage Premiums Rise Slowly Again This Year - WSJ.com

    Newer article on the topic: Study shows slower rise in job-based health costs

    This one is speculation: Premium Increases Under Obamacare May Be Overstated - Bloomberg

    I don't think health insurance companies activities contribute enough to justify the profits and excessive executive compensation.
    It would be fine except peoples very lives are dependent in our country.

    Like nurses and other healthcare workers I think there must be a Code iof Ethics" for health insurance companies.

    Much as I do not like Obamacare it does regulate health insurance companies.

    I agree with the signers of the Declaration of Independence, "We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal..."
    Last edit by herring_RN on Sep 22, '13
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  9. Visit  VivaLasViejas profile page
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    Two words: The Mandate.
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  10. Visit  wooh profile page
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    The GOP didn't mind it back when it was THEIR answer to health reform. But as soon as their focus became defeating the President at all costs instead of actually working for the good of the country, it became a big bad evil.
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  11. Visit  VivaLasViejas profile page
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    It wasn't a good idea when the Republicans came up with the mandate either. But at least they didn't present the country with an enormous book containing a healthcare reform bill and say "We have to pass this legislation so we can find out what's in it," or words to that effect.

    'nuff said.
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  12. Visit  wooh profile page
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    Why yes, it's much better to let people not buy insurance, then just not pay when they can't pay their medical bills and stick the rest of us with the bill. I'd think the GOP would be all about taking some personal responsibility instead of mooching off of us responsible enough to have insurance.
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  13. Visit  VivaLasViejas profile page
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    Believe me, if I could afford insurance, I'd buy it......but try getting it when you have asthma, arthritis, diabetes, alcoholism, obesity, HTN, and bipolar disorder. Not to mention a husband with pancreatic cancer! Yes, yes, I know Obamacare is supposed to fix all this, and if it does, great. But it won't.
  14. Visit  CloudySue profile page
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    If you want to drive a car, you must be insured. Nobody seems to have a problem with that. You don't pay, you don't drive. If you get caught driving w/o car insurance, you are in huge trouble. I don't see the difference in mandated car insurance to mandated health insurance, yet people seem to whine about it.

    If you want to see a doctor, use an ER, need a hospital stay, an operation, need an ambulance to come get you when you're dying, etc. etc. etc., then you should be insured. People who are not insured seem to get care somehow anyway- there are billions of dollars of outstanding medical bills unpaid out there. Why are these compassionate conservatives who whine about people on welfare and receiving food stamps not upset about healthcare bloodsuckers who make everyone else's insurance premium rates go up to absorb the cost? People say it's "too expensive", well, yes it is, but a year of premiums is still cheaper than paying the rack rate for, say, a routine appendectomy, which my good friend is currently paying for. (Or... she could just refuse to pay and let the hospital pass the loss on to you? Which do you prefer?)

    Conservatives want everyone to be accountable for themselves- get a job, don't mooch off the system, don't have kids you can't afford, etc. If this is a virtue they value in our citizens, then why aren't they all behind requiring everyone to purchase their own health insurance? Please explain the logic.
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  15. Visit  ak2190 profile page
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    GOP = Generally socially and fiscally conservative people. A lot of those people equate Obamacare with too much government influence on businesses, people's "free choice" to buy or not buy health insurance, and generally any large system run by the government... except all the ones that are already in place and they benefit from daily. >_> Those are fine.
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