What is your opinion on the Womens March on Washington Today? - page 4

i am not involved in it, but my daughters are marching. I am a pro life person but each person has her own opinion. I am just curious about what your opinions are.... Read More

  1. by   heron
    Quote from conservativeprof
    I not only like this, I love it. Also, you may have noticed that one of the prolific posters has threatened to place you on her "ignore" list because of your post. No matter, and this is actually quite funny because I bring to your attention a quote that is on every one of her posts: First they ignore you. Then they laugh at you. Then they fight you. Then you win.
    -Mahatma Gandhi, Indian independence leader
    The ignore list functions, for me, as a buffer between me and the stale old memes used to bog down these discussions. The questions asked by that poster have been answered ... some of them for decades. That she wanted to relitigate them here has nothing to do with any desire to understand marchers' lives or concerns. If I'm wrong, I'll be happy to provide her, or anyone else, with a reading list.

    So, do you have anything of substance to say about the marches?
  2. by   toomuchbaloney
    Meh
    So many people just think that if they haven't experienced discrimination or racism or bigotry that it just doesn't exist.

    Oh well, we'll stand up for your rights too.
  3. by   rnmaybe
    How many people turned out for Hillary's inauguration?

    Quote from heron
    Remember: "First they ignore you. Then they laugh at you. Then they fight you. Then you win."
    -Mahatma Gandhi, Indian independence leader

    Don't let Bannon's brigade define the debate. 27% of eligible voters do not a majority make. In my opinion, a majority in the popular vote plus the clear differences in turnout around the inauguration and the huge numbers of people at the Women's March, it's sister marches in every state in the Union as well as world-wide are all evidence that the current ruling party does not have the support of anywhere near a majority of citizens.

    As for the California schtick, so what? California is, last I heard, still part of the United States and Californians are still citizens. Can't see that the argument invalidates the plurality at all.

    So far, the opposition has followed a very stereotypical course in its quest to delegimize feminists as well as anyone else daring to point out that the emperor has no clothes. First the cracks about appearance (AZhiker, I'm looking at you), then the claims that we're all crazy and bitter old women, then apoplectic outrage over "unseemly language" (See The American Conservative.com's Rod Dreher's comments here: The Horrible New Normal | The American Conservative).

    Soon to follow are the accusations of terrorism, currently reserved for the likes of Black Lives Matter. Since, as far as I know, all the marches were non-violent, they can't make that one stick quite yet. (They got a little mileage out of the anarchist idiots during the inauguration, but they had nothing to do with the women's marches.) Then comes the violent intimidation, a la the forced pregnancy movement.

    I suggest we don't waste time debating "alternative facts" with anonymous internet and instead about how to capitalize on the energy generated these past few weeks. As soon as we become effective, we will become targets. We have a lot to do.

    Meanwhile, a couple of reality checks, as I wait with bated breath for proof of Trump's claim that the popular vote plurality resulted from illegal voting.

    216 National Popular Vote Tracker

    https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/...ates.html?_r=0
  4. by   Elvish
    Quote from tntrn
    A feminist group that is Pro-Life was specifically uninvited, just for that reason. I have nothing positive to say about it. Madonna and Ashley Judd spewing nothing but hatred eliminates anything positive any of the other women might be standing for, in my opinion.
    Rich.
    Meanwhile, you voted for (and defend) a man who talks just like them whilst he was bragging about sexual assault. Sounds like the politics bothers you more than the language, which doesn't leave a lot of room for self-righteousness.

    My mother marched in DC, as did about half a dozen work friends, some of whom took their teenage daughters. I am proud of them all.
  5. by   Horseshoe
    What do I think of it?

    I think that the Constitution guarantees us the right to assemble and freedom of speech. I think that there are many people in this country (and a few on this board) who would like to see those freedoms erased if the message is not to their liking. And that is a much more dangerous point of view than any that could have been expressed at the marches.

    Saying that most of the marchers are ugly and bitter is just a load of crap intended to distract from any of the issues that might actually be relevant and valid.

    I didn't march, but I support any American's right to assemble and speak their mind. Those who would like to restrict those rights (and now some of the powers that be have started attempting to restrict the freedom of the press and their access to national events and dialogue-a very dangerous development) are anti American.
  6. by   rnmaybe
    so you were upset when trump supporters were assaulted trying to go to his rallies when he was running for president? And were you made at the anti-Trump protesters in Washington that spit on the gold star family members? Were you upset when anti-trump protesters block access to highways and public transportation systems during his run and during the march on Washington? So are they anti-American? Are people who burn the flag anti-American?




    Quote from Horseshoe
    What do I think of it?

    I think that the Constitution guarantees us the right to assemble and freedom of speech. I think that there are many people in this country (and a few on this board) who would like to see those freedoms erased if the message is not to their liking. And that is a much more dangerous point of view than any that could have been expressed at the marches.

    Saying that most of the marchers are ugly and bitter is just a load of crap intended to distract from any of the issues that might actually be relevant and valid.

    I didn't march, but I support any American's right to assemble and speak their mind. Those who would like to restrict those rights (and now some of the powers that be have started attempting to restrict the freedom of the press and their access to national events and dialogue-a very dangerous development) are anti American.
  7. by   Lil Nel
    Quote from rnmaybe
    so you were upset when trump supporters were assaulted trying to go to his rallies when he was running for president? And were you made at the anti-Trump protesters in Washington that spit on the gold star family members? Were you upset when anti-trump protesters block access to highways and public transportation systems during his run and during the march on Washington? So are they anti-American? Are people who burn the flag anti-American?
    I have no idea which alternative reality you are living in, but I have an excellent memory and do vividly recall it was Donald Trump who insulted and Tweeted nasty remarks repeatedly about the Muslim Gold Star family that dared to challenge him at the Democratic National Convention. He attacked these poor people for days and days. He behaves like a rabid dog that just can't let go.

    Blocking traffic is a legitimate form of protest in my humble opinion.

    And no, flag burners aren't un-American. They are exercising their free speech rights.

    Of course, I think all of us remember the pictures of anti-Trump protestors being assaulted by Trump supporters at rallies. And who can forget Herr Trump stating he would pay the legal bills of the attackers?

    I understand that many Trump supporters will stand by their man no matter what. Just say that. Please don't resort to the use of alternative facts. Simply have the courage to say: I support Herr Trump no matter what!
  8. by   rnmaybe
    And too many people think that any disagreement or lack of acknowledgement is a form of Hitlerian racism, bigotry, misogyny...

    Quote from toomuchbaloney
    Meh
    So many people just think that if they haven't experienced discrimination or racism or bigotry that it just doesn't exist.

    Oh well, we'll stand up for your rights too.
  9. by   rnmaybe
    seek some professional help for your alternate reality.

    Quote from Lil Nel
    I have no idea which alternative reality you are living in, but I have an excellent memory and do vividly recall it was Donald Trump who insulted and Tweeted nasty remarks repeatedly about the Muslim Gold Star family that dared to challenge him at the Democratic National Convention. He attacked these poor people for days and days. He behaves like a rabid dog that just can't let go.

    Blocking traffic is a legitimate form of protest in my humble opinion.

    And no, flag burners aren't un-American. They are exercising their free speech rights.

    Of course, I think all of us remember the pictures of anti-Trump protestors being assaulted by Trump supporters at rallies. And who can forget Herr Trump stating he would pay the legal bills of the attackers?

    I understand that many Trump supporters will stand by their man no matter what. Just say that. Please don't resort to the use of alternative facts. Simply have the courage to say: I support Herr Trump no matter what!
  10. by   Horseshoe
    Quote from rnmaybe
    so you were upset when trump supporters were assaulted trying to go to his rallies when he was running for president? And were you made at the anti-Trump protesters in Washington that spit on the gold star family members? Were you upset when anti-trump protesters block access to highways and public transportation systems during his run and during the march on Washington? So are they anti-American? Are people who burn the flag anti-American?
    As I just said, I think anyone who tries to keep others from exercising their right to assembly and free speech is Anti-American. What part of that do you not understand? What I did NOT do, is take a partisan stand as pro- or Anti- Trump.
  11. by   elkpark
    Quote from rnmaybe
    seek some professional help for your alternate reality.
    You're the one who appears to be experiencing some kind of alternate reality.
  12. by   Lil Nel
    Quote from rnmaybe
    seek some professional help for your alternate reality.
    Are you denying that these things actually happened?

    It wasn't Hillary Clinton who attacked the Khan family. It was your Donny boy.

    I live in the real world. Which is lately, is making me sad and angry. Believe me, I wish it was true that Herr Trump was a nice guy who actually cared about this country.

    But that isn't the case. And I have the courage to say I will reject and resist his agenda and do everything within my power to ensure his administration is a failure.
  13. by   BCgradnurse
    Quote from Lil Nel
    Are you denying that these things actually happened?

    It wasn't Hillary Clinton who attacked the Khan family. It was your Donny boy.

    I live in the real world. Which is lately, is making me sad and angry. Believe me, I wish it was true that Herr Trump was a nice guy who actually cared about this country.

    But that isn't the case. And I have the courage to say I will reject and resist his agenda and do everything within my power to ensure his administration is a failure.

    Kellyanne Conway's alternative facts are really working well for some delusional people, who cannot see Trump for the incompetent, immature, narcissist that he is. I'll be right beside you, Lil Nel, resisting with all my might to help save this democracy.

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