The VP Debate: "bunch of malarkey..." - page 7

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    I think that the answer to the Obama question and disrespecting the office of the POTUS relates to the fact that many people do not respect president Obama as a person and therefore, do not respect him as president.

    I have never seen anything like it...it is way worse than it was with Clinton inspite of his personal indiscretion.

    Of course, I have to ask again...why? why this president? what is so different about this administration that common respect for the office has been set aside relative to THIS man.
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    Quote from aknottedyarn
    Shortened to highlight one other important point IMO.

    I applaud you and many others who are seeking citizenship. I appreciate that you are actively involved in this discussion where you get to have no say in the outcome.

    Too many who really can vote will skip doing it. They do not appreciate the power of the vote and the importance of making your choice known.

    Many have become disillusioned after all the attempts to stop many voters from voting. This includes the crazy ID requirements that were a hidden poll tax, the attempts by a company to change and discard voter registration cards, and the current issue of this company, now using a different front name, being used again, or still, by the GOP to wipe out voters they do not want voting.

    I love the idea that is used in many countries: thumb is dipped in ink after voting. It is a badge of honor. Where I vote we get cheesy stickers that say "I voted" which is not quite the same.

    Again, I hope you stay active in the political discussions. There is much to be learned from all the views expressed here.
    Voter turn out in America is way to low for being the largest free nation on the Planet. Countries like Australia, if I remember correctly has like a 98% voter turn out because its the law to vote. Hopefully things like this don't need to be mandated here. Hey you don't Like Obama, by all means vote for Romney, but for goodness sake, VOTE! Some people say I'm Christian I don't vote, well so am I, but my Jesus says, give unto Ceaser what is Ceaser's...thats things like taxes and votes. Hey I will never agree with everything any candidate says, but people men , women died for this democracy to vote, this was instilled in me at a very young age. My country does the thumb in red ink thing. Yesterday my America wife, who I finally convinced her to vote for the very first time at the age of 27, I asked her where's your thumb stain? lol she was like huh? We are proud to show our stained thumbs lol ...what are u waiting on?...VOTE!
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    Quote from tewdles
    I think that the answer to the Obama question and disrespecting the office of the POTUS relates to the fact that many people do not respect president Obama as a person and therefore, do not respect him as president.

    I have never seen anything like it...it is way worse than it was with Clinton inspite of his personal indiscretion.

    Of course, I have to ask again...why? why this president? what is so different about this administration that common respect for the office has been set aside relative to THIS man.
    I highly respect the OFFICE of the President. However, there have been several presidents who have disrespected it while they were holding the office and indeed, some of that disrespect was done while actually physically in the office.

    Yes, I feel it is entirely possible to respect the office and disrespect the office holder. Respect, to me, is something that is earned, not just given. It is also something that can be taken away, so if President fails to respect the office he holds in some way, he loses my respect for him as the President.
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    And this president is not respected by a large number of Americans beginning the day of his inauguration. During his first SOTU address a member of congress shouted "liar" during his remarks...a very sad FIRST for our country...it has only gotten worse since then.

    Again, why? Why does this president deserve less respect than Bush?
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    He does not.
    People may not like the way he has worked to help us. They may want to argue the methods. He was left a mess. If you got a house and walked in and found all the plumbing ripped out, wall knocked out etc. Is there no one who would have been upset with the condition and how it had changed from the time when you started negotiations? Well, Obama walked into a worse mess. he was told clearly by those who could have helped turn things around that he was on his own. Their job was to be sure he would not get re-elected. The problem is that the GOP acted like spoiled children then and continue to act that way. They led the charge of disrespecting the office. Why is up for grabs. We know there ae many who resent a man of color becoming POTUS. Guess what, with those criteria every minority should disrespect the office because no "X" has occupied the WH. Other minorities would get the same treatment from the GOP. it is filled with WORMs and they want to keep it that way. The old boy network was shaken to its core by Obama.

    I see the reason that the GOP is lock step with Romoney and lyin Ryan is they represent the old boy network.
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    I heard this on the radio today: if Obama is reelected, he is going to inherit an even bigger mess than he did 4 years ago. My question is this: can you inherit something from yourself?
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    Quote from tntrn
    I heard this on the radio today: if Obama is reelected, he is going to inherit an even bigger mess than he did 4 years ago. My question is this: can you inherit something from yourself?
    Bigger mess as defined by what? Certainly not an economy that is crashing in the worst way since the Great Depression? National debt perhaps?
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    Quote from Tweety
    Bigger mess as defined by what? Certainly not an economy that is crashing in the worst way since the Great Depression? National debt perhaps?

    Not everybody sees what we have now as rosy as you do, Tweety! I don't know exactly what the caller was basing that on. But I thought it a great question.

    And if he was talking about the deficit, which is HUGELY bigger than four years ago, will Obama still try to blame that on Bush? I think he'll have to find a new line for that.
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    Quote from tntrn
    Not everybody sees what we have now as rosy as you do.....And if he was talking about the deficit, which is HUGELY bigger than four years ago, will Obama still try to blame that on Bush? I think he'll have to find a new line for that.
    Please don't spin what I've said. In post after post after post after post I've talked about how shaky and bad things are in the economy today and I honestly can't fathom how you're spinning that whenever I mention how awful things were four years ago compared today that I'm saying things are "rosy".

    But since you can't define what he means by "bigger mess" it's all a moot point.

    As I've said many times before, since the Tea Party didn't start during the trillion dollar deficits that Bush started, I have no respect for their outrage today. Here's where Steph chimes in "but conservatives were outraged but it just came to a head after Bush left office, it's just a coincidence". But if Bush hadn't screwed things up so badly Obama wouldn't have been faced with having to spend to much to dig us out. So yeah, it's Bush's fault. LOL

    But things are a huge mess and the problems we are facing are tremendous and multifaceted to the point when you try to put out one fire (save the economy) you create another (deficit). Try to deal with the deficit, people get fired and lose their jobs and the economy is effected, national security overseas is affected.

    Obama and Romney couldn't be more opposite in how they are going to approach these issues and whomever is elected will affect a generation and beyond.....and the do nothing congress doesn't help at all.
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    Tweety, did you edit out the "!" I put after my first sentence when you quoted me? Because I put it there to indicate I was teasing.
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