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    Steph, politicians lie. Romney is an expert. He says it is OK to lie. What's your point? You think someone else lied so it is terrible? Unless you have been privy to all the national security info that Biden is I wish you would stop with the accusations. Perhaps he did lie. Maybe he did not and there are facts you don't know. If that is all you got out of the debate, and his laughter, then you missed a great deal.
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    I understand that conservatives are upset because they believe Biden lied.
    I wonder why they are not upset that their candidates both repeat untruths with regularity.
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    I have three favorite moments from the debate:

    #1. (As a lifelong MA Resident): Paul Ryan: "Mitt Romney was the governor of Massachusetts and he worked with democrats and reached across the aisles blah blah blah."
    Joe Biden: "Romney isn't even contesting Massachusetts!"
    Fact- Obama has a 20ish point lead in MA.

    #2. Paul Ryan: "Well Ronald Reagan did xyz."
    Joe Biden: "Actually, I was there when that happened."

    #3. Paul Ryan: "It's impossible to separate your faith from your public policy." Our founding fathers are rolling over in their graves.
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    Quote from aknottedyarn
    Sorry, I have little tolerance for this attack on the president for the effects of the GOP slash and burn budget. You can blame the aggressors and you can blame those who cut the budget, but at least be honest that when you are attacking the president for this. You are doing something you have never done with other presidents who had embassies attacked under their tenure.
    Exactly which republican budget are you referring to responsible for slashing the DOS budget?Obama, Democrats not serious about passing budget - CNN.com
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    I've always really liked Joe Biden. (well, I never heard of him before 2008, but you know what I mean). I really hope the party grooms him for a run in 2016, but I kinda doubt it.
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    Quote from aknottedyarn
    Steph, politicians lie. Romney is an expert. He says it is OK to lie. What's your point? You think someone else lied so it is terrible? Unless you have been privy to all the national security info that Biden is I wish you would stop with the accusations. Perhaps he did lie. Maybe he did not and there are facts you don't know. If that is all you got out of the debate, and his laughter, then you missed a great deal.
    Nobody (and I mean *nobody*) gets to the level of VP or higher without telling a lot of lies and having a lot of secrets. We should just accept this and stop the national charade that our leaders are "apple pie normal joes" or just like us. For the love of Pete, I don't want my president to be anything like the average American! He should be much much smarter and much more worldly and coldly calculating
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    Radditz: skilled.

    Biden was his scrappy-yappy-blabby self in the debate. I trust he is smart enough to reign it in if engaged in international situations requiring diplomacy. If he matched your ideology you see him as "real" and a little funny. If you have another ideology, you see him as annoying or something negative. What Biden didn't do? Bland himself down to a polished, typical politician who tries to pander to everyone and lacks being genuine.

    Ryan: polished and slightly endearing, but lacking substance and specifics. But then - he doesn't match my ideology, so that's how I view him. Oh, and he has pretty eyes. Darn those handsome conservatives.
    Last edit by Multicollinearity on Oct 12, '12
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    I LOVED Martha Raddatz as moderator. Whether either of the boys brought their A game*, I am certain Ms. Raddatz brought hers.

    *I want to like Paul Ryan a lot; he is handsome and much more likable than Romney, and I don't think he did poorly in this debate but still believe Biden mopped the floor with him.

    None of it changes my vote, though. I watched last night for pure entertainment value.

    ETA: Completely shallow comment alert: the red and blue tie thing is quaint. Next debate I want to see Obamney wear their favorite superhero tie or something. Live dangerously.
    Last edit by Elvish on Oct 12, '12
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    GOP cuts to embassy security draw scrutiny, jabs from Democrats

    ... Democrats enacted $1.803 billion for embassy security, construction and maintenance for fiscal 2010, when they still controlled the Senate and House. After Republicans took control of the House and picked up six Senate seats, Congress reduced the enacted budget to $1.616 billion in fiscal 2011, and to $1.537 billion for 2012.

    The administration requested $1.801 billion for security, construction and maintenance for fiscal 2012; House Republicans countered with a proposal to cut spending to $1.425 billion. The House agreed to increase it to $1.537 billion after negotiations with the Senate.

    The administration requested $1.654 billion for the State Department’s Worldwide Security Protection program for fiscal 2012. House Republicans proposed funding the program at $1.557 billion. Congress eventually enacted $1.591 billion after the Senate weighed in.

    For fiscal 2013, the administration requested $2.15 billion in funding for the worldwide security protection program, a larger increase from the previous year. The House countered with a proposal to increase the program to $1.934 billion. ...

    http://thehill.com/homenews/house/25...crats-scrutiny
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    herring,

    If your budget required you to make priorities and reduce funding of one item in order to preserve another, would you sacrifice your safety in the most dangerous neighborhood in town in order to maintain appearances in front of your friends?

    Or more to the point, would you sacrifice the safety of your loyal and hard-working employees in the most dangerous neighborhood in town in order to look good to your fickle "friends?"

    Our President and his administration shouldn't have done that. I might have a bit of respect if he would simply acknowledge that he and his team made a grave error in judgement, instead of trying desperately and ineffectively to cover it all up. That is a disgrace to the families of the brutally slain individuals and an insult to the intelligence of the American people and their dogs, who can see right thru the whole charade.

    Leaders admit their errors. Little boys and little men attempt to blame others.
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