U.S. should automatically register voters - page 3

Wed Dec 12, 2012 6:09am EST (Reuters) - Attorney General Eric Holder said on Tuesday that U.S. election officials should register eligible voters automatically and take steps to... Read More

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    Quote from StNeotser
    Yes, but that arbitrary value on a constitutional right...........well of course the person who attempts to study all the issues diligently is also the person who prior to doing so registers to vote, surely? I'd really like to hear from some of the Australian nurses input here. In Australia there is a mandate to vote, and I'd love to hear what they think of it.
    Quote from tntrn
    And then there are those who are incapable of making any decisions for themselves, financially, medically, personally who are driven to the polls and "assisted" in voting. How informed can they be?
    We may not like how someone arrives at the polls. We may think it's horrible that "get out the vote" campaigns make it possible for some citizens to vote that we may not feel have earned that right as much as we think we have. However, a constitutional right is conferred on a citizen with no "strings" attached. They don't need to to prove their worthiness to anyone. I guess a few incompetent people who haven't been declared such by the courts may figure out how to get to the polls and navigate the ballot system at their local polling place. A few drunk, angry, high, and emotionally disturbed people probably do the same. It isn't a perfect system, but with the right to vote I think we need to be as inclusive as possible. The numbers are such that even now voter turnout is relatively low in this country, especially for off-year and local elections.

    If you do it even a little bit, it opens the door that will ultimately result in disenfranchisement of some people. Like I said, I wish the electorate were more informed, but it's up to each citizen to decide that for themselves.
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    I think we should not give government any more access to databases than it already has.
    subee and workingharder like this.
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    Automatic registration for all eligible citizens will not change things. Those who want to vote will still do so, those who don't, won't. If increasing voter turn out is the goal, than include on every ballot item an option for, "None of the Above".
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    That's true, I think. I remember the hysteria surrounding "Motor Voter" here in California. None of the scenarios panned out, and people who normally vote voted, and people who normally don't didn't. It had nil effect on the total picture.
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    Why even bother with registration? When we help people vote in other countries we don't bother with registrations. Instead, voters dip a finger in indelible ink. Just open the polls and get a few gallons of purple ink. No id needed to vote, just clean fingers.
    nursel56 and tewdles like this.
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    Quote from nursel56
    The numbers are such that even now voter turnout is relatively low in this country, especially for off-year and local elections.

    Most of that is because people p.o.'d and are giving up. Throwing their hands in the air in frustration and just not voting.

    "What's the use?" is what I hear all the time from registered voters who did not vote in the last few elections. They lump all politicians in the same leaky boat - Congress has some of the lowest ratings ever.

    There is no Utopia . . we can't force people to act a certain way or do things the way we want them to no matter how many laws we pass. Or things we think we have to mandate to get them to do the right thing and VOTE.
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    Quote from Jolie
    There is nothing automatic about being "registered" for a SS# based upon the recording of a live birth. Back in the olden days of our youth, most families didn't bother applying for SS numbers for their children until they were teens, preparing to work or drive.

    Now, parents must have a SS# to claim their child as a dependent for tax purposes, so most apply at birth, and most hospitals accomodate this process by forwarding information to both the recorder of vital statistics (for the birth certificate) and the SS Administration. But the application for a SS# is not required at birth, and not automatic. The parents must request it (or at least OK it) and they may choose not to pursue it at birth.

    Registering a newborn child to vote is a waste of time and an invitation for fraud. The likelihood of that individual living in the same household 18 years later is almost nil, so there is very little likelihood that the registration would be current and valid by the time the child is eligible to vote. In the meantime, the listing would be open to fraud and identity theft. Crooks love to prey on identity information of young children because the likelihood of being discovered is very small.
    You are exactly right - as a former L&D nurse, I know you can give parents the info but no one is automatically registered and the parents do not have to sign their kiddo up then.
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    How do you see voting? Is it a right? a privilege? a responsibility?
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    Interesting . . found this:

    FairVote.org | Voting: A Right, A Privilege, or A Responsibility?

    It isn't an easy question you're asking aky.
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    Quote from Spidey's mom
    Interesting . . found this:

    FairVote.org | Voting: A Right, A Privilege, or A Responsibility?

    It isn't an easy question you're asking aky.
    That is why I asked. People have responses based on how they view voting. I think it actually is a great question. I had not read the article until after asking the question.
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