U.S. should automatically register voters - page 2

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Wed Dec 12, 2012 6:09am EST (Reuters) - Attorney General Eric Holder said on Tuesday that U.S. election officials should register eligible voters automatically and take steps to reduce the long lines... Read More


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    Quote from Miiki✿
    Where do you get a no-cost ID? This is not common knowledge where I live.
    Many states do not charge for non-driver's license state IDs.
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    Quote from tntrn
    Why force them to be registered?
    Why not?
    If you are born in the country you get a certificate of live birth, you get registered for a SS number, why not get registered to vote as well?

    Perhaps we could then begin to teach our children at an early age that they have this right and responsibility from birth and perhaps our country could aspire to higher percentages of the citizenry voting.

    I think it would be wonderful if each state issued a cost free voter ID card, as long as they don't legislate and require that within 90 days of a federal election.
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    Quote from Jolie
    If someone is not interested enough in the electoral process to expend the minimum effort necessary to register, why do so for him placing his name on the voter rolls, enabling some fraudulent hack to impersonate him at the polls by showing up to vote without ID?


    Ohhhh! Now I get it
    Who Can Vote? - A News21 2012 National Project

    Insight: Scant evidence of voter suppression, fraud in states with ID laws | Reuters

    Study saying voter fraud cases 'infinitesimal' dismissed | The Daily Caller

    The reality is that voter fraud by impersonation is so rare that it does not deserve the attention and fear that it currently enjoys. We certainly should not be spending any great sums of money to fix this "non-problem" at this time.
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    Quote from Jolie
    Many states do not charge for non-driver's license state IDs.
    Oh ok. My state requires ID at the poll and does not provide no-cost ID. Most of the states with voter ID laws have provisions that let you sign an affidavit and vote without ID. Some leave it like that and some require a follow up with ID.
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    I'm of the opinion that if you can't make the effort to register, it shouldn't be done for you. Nor should voting ever be mandatory. I also think that registering to vote and the process itself should be made as easy as possible. Personally I vote by mail in ballot because I could never be sure that I wouldn't be scheduled for a 12 hour shift on election day. Yeah, I know they say your employer is required to give you time off to vote, but I'd hate to be the floor nurse with 10 patients that asked............

    I realize that early voting and mail in ballots are not an option in some states and districts and I think that options other than waiting in line on the day should be available to all voters in every state.
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    Isn't saying anything about "making an effort" imposing an arbitrary value standard on a constitutional right? Personally, it bugs me that my vote as someone who attempts to study all the issues diligently counts for exactly the same thing as someone who doesn't, but that's our system. We can only use our power to persuade.
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    StNeotser - I'm of the opinion that if you can't make the effort to register, it shouldn't be done for you. Nor should voting ever be mandatory.
    I agree . . it smacks of parents doing their kid's homework.

    It isn't hard to register to vote - you just have to be interested enough to do so.

    And I taught and am teaching my children about how important it is to vote. I've taken them all with me to vote. They got to wear the sticker "I voted". We talk about politics and laws and many other things so they are well-informed.

    All my adult kids registered - the paperwork came in the mail and they mailed it back. But you know what? Only one of my adult kids has ever voted. Two are not interested.

    No matter what you do, the folks who really want to vote . . .will vote. This should never ever be mandated.

    It is too important.
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    Quote from nursel56
    Isn't saying anything about "making an effort" imposing an arbitrary value standard on a constitutional right? Personally, it bugs me that my vote as someone who attempts to study all the issues diligently counts for exactly the same thing as someone who doesn't, but that's our system. We can only use our power to persuade.
    Yes, but that arbitrary value on a constitutional right...........well of course the person who attempts to study all the issues diligently is also the person who prior to doing so registers to vote, surely? I'd really like to hear from some of the Australian nurses input here. In Australia there is a mandate to vote, and I'd love to hear what they think of it.
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    And then there are those who are incapable of making any decisions for themselves, financially, medically, personally who are driven to the polls and "assisted" in voting. How informed can they be?
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    Quote from tewdles
    Why not?
    If you are born in the country you get a certificate of live birth, you get registered for a SS number, why not get registered to vote as well?
    There is nothing automatic about being "registered" for a SS# based upon the recording of a live birth. Back in the olden days of our youth, most families didn't bother applying for SS numbers for their children until they were teens, preparing to work or drive.

    Now, parents must have a SS# to claim their child as a dependent for tax purposes, so most apply at birth, and most hospitals accomodate this process by forwarding information to both the recorder of vital statistics (for the birth certificate) and the SS Administration. But the application for a SS# is not required at birth, and not automatic. The parents must request it (or at least OK it) and they may choose not to pursue it at birth.

    Registering a newborn child to vote is a waste of time and an invitation for fraud. The likelihood of that individual living in the same household 18 years later is almost nil, so there is very little likelihood that the registration would be current and valid by the time the child is eligible to vote. In the meantime, the listing would be open to fraud and identity theft. Crooks love to prey on identity information of young children because the likelihood of being discovered is very small.
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