U.S. lawyers for Iraqis sue to block Trump immigration order

  1. The lawyers from numerous immigration organizations and the American Civil Liberties Union sued in federal court in Brooklyn, New York, on behalf of two Iraqi men, one a former U.S. government worker and the other the husband of a former U.S. security contractor....

    ... The lawsuit asks a judge to order the release of the two men and to block the enforcement of Trump's order on behalf of a class of people who have valid entry documents but are in the same situation at various U.S. airports.One of the plaintiffs, Hameed Khalid Darweesh, 53, worked for the U.S. Army and for a U.S. contractor in Iraq from 2003 to 2013 as an interpreter and engineer, the lawsuit said...
    U.S. lawyers for Iraqis sue to block Trump immigration order – Metro
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  3. by   Lil Nel
    I believe one of the Iraqi men has been released, while the other is still being held.

    Heartwarming to see anti-ban protesters outside Terminal 4 at JFK. Each time this disgusting administration does something ridiculous, it must be met with protest.

    For a man who cares so much about appearance, the constant dissent will surely grate on the nerves of Herr Trump.
  4. by   herring_RN
  5. by   herring_RN
    Is this true? It reads like FAKE NEWS.
    President Trump's Muslim ban excludes countries linked to his sprawling business empire
    President Trump’s most recent executive order effectively bans citizens of seven Muslim-majority countries from entering the U.S. for at least 90 days — but some Muslim countries were spared from the order's blacklist, even though they have deep-seated ties to terrorism.
    Conspicuously, Trump doesn't hold any business interests in any of the countries on the list, but holds major stakes in several of those excluded from it, records show...

    ... Friday’s executive order, signed at the Pentagon, suspends the issuing of U.S. visas or travel permits to people from Iran, Iraq, Libya, Somalia, Sudan, Syria and Yemen. Not a single American was killed on U.S. soil by citizens from any of those countries between 1975 and 2015, according to statistics tallied by the conservative-leaning Cato Institute.
    However, the same set of statistics show that nearly 3,000 Americans were killed by citizens from Saudi Arabia, the United Arab Emirates, Egypt and Turkey in the same time period — with the bulk of those killed being victims of the 9/11 attacks. Yet, people from those four countries are still welcome to apply for U.S. visas and travel permits...
    Trump's Muslim ban excludes countries linked to his businesses - NY Daily News
  6. by   BCgradnurse
    The ACLU won a temporary order against tRump's ban on allowing Muslims with valid visas entry to the US. This gives me a slight ray of hope. Humanity won a small victory today.
  7. by   RainMom
    Quote from herring_RN
    Is this true? It reads like FAKE NEWS.
    I found this helpful:
    Donald Trump didn’t come up with the list of Muslim countries he wants to ban. Obama did. | Mic
  8. by   RainMom
    So...I posted a link which doesn't show yet...Has to be reviewed? Anyway, the 7 countries were apparently based on a visa bill passed December 2015 under Obama.
  9. by   Markperry
    Why are these people leaving the country? Trump has been saying he is going to do a Muslim ban for over a year now. He gets into office and in the first week he keeps his promise and signs an order to ban these people.

    Now they are crying? I am sorry I don't get it. It's their own fault for being dumb to leave the country. Stupid is, As Stupid does.
  10. by   elkpark
    Quote from herring_RN
    Is this true? It reads like FAKE NEWS.
    What is it that makes it sound fake to you? The administration is claiming that the list consists of countries that Congress has identified in the past as having links to terrorism, but there is no disputing that there are plenty of other middle eastern countries with obvious links to terrorism that are conspicuously absent from the list, and those all happen to be countries with which Trump has business dealings. Saudi Arabia, of course, was the home of the bulk of the 9/11 terrorists and continues to be the home of radical Wahhabi thought, and sponsors Wahhabi madrassas around the world, including in the US -- but, somehow (could it be the oil and the multiple business connections, not just Trump, but plenty of other US interests?), seems to always get a free pass.
  11. by   herring_RN
    Quote from RainMom
    So...I posted a link which doesn't show yet...Has to be reviewed? Anyway, the 7 countries were apparently based on a visa bill passed December 2015 under Obama.
    The 2015 bill allowed people from many countries to continue to come to the United States for 90 days or less without enhanced vetting.
    This is different:
    Visa Waiver Program
  12. by   herring_RN
    Quote from Markperry
    Why are these people leaving the country? Trump has been saying he is going to do a Muslim ban for over a year now. He gets into office and in the first week he keeps his promise and signs an order to ban these people.

    Now they are crying? I am sorry I don't get it. It's their own fault for being dumb to leave the country. Stupid is, As Stupid does.
    Presedent Trump said, "It's not a Muslim ban."
  13. by   herring_RN
    Quote from elkpark
    What is it that makes it sound fake to you? The administration is claiming that the list consists of countries that Congress has identified in the past as having links to terrorism, but there is no disputing that there are plenty of other middle eastern countries with obvious links to terrorism that are conspicuously absent from the list, and those all happen to be countries with which Trump has business dealings. Saudi Arabia, of course, was the home of the bulk of the 9/11 terrorists and continues to be the home of radical Wahhabi thought, and sponsors Wahhabi madrassas around the world, including in the US -- but, somehow (could it be the oil and the multiple business connections, not just Trump, but plenty of other US interests?), seems to always get a free pass.
    I don't so much doubt the facts as dislike jumping to the conclusion as to why President Trump chose those countries only and not the countries the 9/11 terrorists were from.
    Clearly this treatment of people solely on the basis of their religion and country of national origin seems wrong to me.
    Do you think extreme vetting could include living and working every with American soldier's for more than ten years, risking his life because he trusted the United States more than the regime of Saddam, and the friendships he made with Americans over that time, and then the three year official vetting process by the United Nations and the United States. Do you think 14 years is long enoubn to vet a person?

    Listen to a veteran he worked with in Iraq:
    Veteran Who Worked With Man Stopped After Immigration Ban Talks About Colleague : NPR

    A nurse from Syria has been my friend and colleague for more than 30 years.
    A doctor from Egypt saved my husbands life.
    They are now US citizens. Can their relatives visit them anymore?
  14. by   Mini2544
    Quote from Markperry
    Why are these people leaving the country? Trump has been saying he is going to do a Muslim ban for over a year now. He gets into office and in the first week he keeps his promise and signs an order to ban these people.

    Now they are crying? I am sorry I don't get it. It's their own fault for being dumb to leave the country. Stupid is, As Stupid does.
    The people affected by this at first have already been released. It was only a few people. I wonder where all the protestors were when Obama did this in 2011.

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