U.S. lawyers for Iraqis sue to block Trump immigration order - page 8

The lawyers from numerous immigration organizations and the American Civil Liberties Union sued in federal court in Brooklyn, New York, on behalf of two Iraqi men, one a former U.S. government worker... Read More

  1. by   Markperry
    Quote from Lil Nel
    The truth is, the refugee vetting process takes anywhere from two to five years. The FBI, CIA and other governmental entities conduct background checks, fingerprint check and iris checks.

    This nonsense about extreme vetting is nothing more discrimination.
    Most of the visa coming from these countries are not refugee visas. They are family based visa, or work based visas.

    The vetting is very little, I bet they spend less than a month or two trying to get data on people. The FBI and CIA has none to little information about people in the Middle East, It is up to the country to that provide that information and many don't want to give that information.

    Coming in to the USA from these countries, they ask the beneficiary (Person coming to the USA) to bring a police report from their county and from any other country they have lived in for more than 6 months.

    Tell me again how that vetting process is so good?
  2. by   Lil Nel
    Quote from Markperry
    Most of the visa coming from these countries are not refugee visas. They are family based visa, or work based visas.

    The vetting is very little, I bet they spend less than a month or two trying to get data on people. The FBI and CIA has none to little information about people in the Middle East, It is up to the country to that provide that information and many don't want to give that information.

    Coming in to the USA from these countries, they ask the beneficiary (Person coming to the USA) to bring a police report from their county and from any other country they have lived in for more than 6 months.

    Tell me again how that vetting process is so good?
    Reread the post.

    Clearly the vetting process IS working since ONLY two attacks have taken place since 9/11 that involved refugees.

    Again, try and THINK critically.

    I don't usually respond to your nonsense posts, but since you quoted my post and clearly didn't read all of it, I had to respond. But I prefer ignoring you.
  3. by   Lil Nel
    Quote from Markperry
    Most of the visa coming from these countries are not refugee visas. They are family based visa, or work based visas.

    The vetting is very little, I bet they spend less than a month or two trying to get data on people. The FBI and CIA has none to little information about people in the Middle East, It is up to the country to that provide that information and many don't want to give that information.

    Coming in to the USA from these countries, they ask the beneficiary (Person coming to the USA) to bring a police report from their county and from any other country they have lived in for more than 6 months.

    Tell me again how that vetting process is so good?
    Reread the post.

    Clearly the vetting process IS working since ONLY two attacks have taken place since 9/11 that involved refugees.

    Again, try and THINK critically.

    I don't usually respond to your nonsense posts, but since you quoted my post and clearly didn't read all of it, I had to respond. But I prefer ignoring you.
  4. by   PMFB-RN
    Quote from Markperry
    What about Muslim Sympathizer Obama who called ISIS a JV team?

    What about Dumbo giving Iran millions and miliions of dollars on a pallet?

    Under Obama his plan was to stick his head in the ground and not disturb his Muslim brothers, now we have to go out and try to clean up his mess.

    It is no doubt under Obama's watch, the world became a much more dangerous place.
    You seem to have forgotten historical reality. ISIS only exsits as a direct ( and predicted) result of Bush's choice to invade, occupy and destabilize Iraq.
    The Syrian civil war and resulting refugees are also an expected & predicted result of Bush's invasion of Iraq.
    On a seperate note, when will Trump find his courage and stop giving into ISIS demands?
  5. by   PMFB-RN
    Quote from Markperry
    I don't think any American hates immigrants or refugees. We are trying to protect the USA from bad guys trying to come into the USA pretending to be a refugee.
    This is incredibly difficult to buy considering the actions taken so far only put the US at increased risk, and the absurdity of the notion that an ISIS terrorist is going to spend 2 to 3 years in a refugee camp going through the exaustive process required of refugees.
    Plenty of ISIS fighters have US and European passports they can more or less come and go as they please. We also know that the preferred method is to recruit a local and radicalize them.
  6. by   Markperry
    Quote from PMFB-RN
    This is incredibly difficult to buy considering the actions taken so far only put the US at increased risk, and the absurdity of the notion that an ISIS terrorist is going to spend 2 to 3 years in a refugee camp going through the exaustive process required of refugees.
    Plenty of ISIS fighters have US and European passports they can more or less come and go as they please. We also know that the preferred method is to recruit a local and radicalize them.
    US passports? I think not, you must be a US Citizen to get a US Passport.

    European? If you are a national of Iraq, Iran, Syria, or Sudan and live in a European country, you can not enter the USA on a Visa Waiver Program
  7. by   PMFB-RN
    US passports? I think not, you must be a US Citizen to get a US Passport
    .

    No need to be condecending by pointing out the obvious.
    A number of US citizens have been caught tying to join ISIS. Not all of them were caught. You can see pictures of ISIS fighters displaying their US passports in Dabiq.

    European? If you are a national of Iraq, Iran, Syria, or Sudan and live in a European country, you can not enter the USA on a Visa Waiver Program
    Yes many is ISIS were born in Europe and have European passports. This is a well known fact. It's not at all difficult for Europeans to get US visas and tens of thousands do every year.

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