U.S. lawyers for Iraqis sue to block Trump immigration order - page 4

The lawyers from numerous immigration organizations and the American Civil Liberties Union sued in federal court in Brooklyn, New York, on behalf of two Iraqi men, one a former U.S. government worker... Read More

  1. by   traumaRUs
    TIME-OUT! Please lets be respectful - no individual name-calling, etc.

    If you see a post that you feel is offensive, please don't engage, just REPORT it

    Thanks much
  2. by   Mini2544
    Quote from rnmaybe
    Please post your "evidence" of all this racism that trump engages in?
    He has none. Just fake news and opinion pieces people take seriously. Can you imagine if we all practiced medicine the way some people come about to their decisions about Trump? Or.. maybe they do. Medical errors are at an all time high
  3. by   heron
    Quote from Markperry
    What about Muslim Sympathizer Obama who called ISIS a JV team?

    What about Dumbo giving Iran millions and miliions of dollars on a pallet?

    Under Obama his plan was to stick his head in the ground and not disturb his Muslim brothers, now we have to go out and try to clean up his mess.

    It is no doubt under Obama's watch, the world became a much more dangerous place.
    Not going to relitigate propaganda that's already been thoroughly debunked.

    Unless you can demonstrate that citizens of the countries named in the travel ban have ever threatened violence in the US, then I will continue to look for the real reasons behind it. So far, provoking a "holy war" is at the top of my list.
  4. by   Lil Nel
    Quote from Markperry
    What about Muslim Sympathizer Obama who called ISIS a JV team?

    What about Dumbo giving Iran millions and miliions of dollars on a pallet?

    Under Obama his plan was to stick his head in the ground and not disturb his Muslim brothers, now we have to go out and try to clean up his mess.

    It is no doubt under Obama's watch, the world became a much more dangerous place.
    The world only became a dangerous for you after 9/11. That's when terrorism was really brought to the mainland of the United States.

    Prior to that, the world was only a dangerous place if you lived elsewhere. Do you think folks living in South Africa, Chile, Argentina, Iran, for example, didn't think the world was a dangerous place?

    How about Jews living in Nazi Germany? Do you think they considered themselves to be living in peaceful times?

    You were sheltered from the harsh realities of the world by your privilege.

    And you can thank George W. Bush for the rise of ISIS. But that is water under the bridge.

    ISIS is here to stay. There is no way to bomb these people out. The ideology has taken hold, and each day that passes with this administration and their travel ban, the ideology takes hold just a little deeper.
  5. by   nursej22
    Last Sunday, in less than 24 hours, more than 1000 folks around here formed a peace vigil at the Canadian-USA border to show those crossing that we disagree with DJT. We sang " this land is your land", "one love", and of course, our national anthem. It gives some comfort to know there are many who don't hate immigrants and refugees.
  6. by   elkpark
    Quote from Mini2544
    He has none. Just fake news and opinion pieces people take seriously. Can you imagine if we all practiced medicine the way some people come about to their decisions about Trump? Or.. maybe they do. Medical errors are at an all time high
    This is why it's such a waste of time to engage with you people. There is plenty of evidence, a trail of behavior and public statements going back to the 1970s, and plenty of evidence of it. You just choose to deny it when it's presented because it conflicts with your little fantasy world.
  7. by   rnmaybe
    How many Canadian immigrant and Canadian refugees did you see sneaking across the Northern border?


    Quote from nursej22
    Last Sunday, in less than 24 hours, more than 1000 folks around here formed a peace vigil at the Canadian-USA border to show those crossing that we disagree with DJT. We sang " this land is your land", "one love", and of course, our national anthem. It gives some comfort to know there are many who don't hate immigrants and refugees.
  8. by   PMFB-RN
    One great thing about Trump's immigration order is that it immediately proves him and all his supporters who claim Trump is only against ILLEGAL immigration to be liars.
    When is Trump going to find his courage and stop appeasing ISIS?
  9. by   elkpark
    Quote from rnmaybe
    How many Canadian immigrant and Canadian refugees did you see sneaking across the Northern border?
    I realize you think you're being clever and showing us how misinformed we are, but, once again, your preconceptions and predjudices are wrong. Nursej22 and her friends probably didn't see any during the rally, but there are plenty.

    Illegal Immigrants Coming in Through Canada

    The head of CBP a few years ago told Congress that immigrants coming in through Canada were a bigger terrorism threat than those coming from the South:

    In 2011, then CBP Commissioner Alan Bersin told the Senate Judiciary Committee regarding terrorist threats, "(i)t's commonly accepted that the more significant threat comes from the U.S.-Canada border."

    www.hsgac.senate.gov/download/the-state-of-americas-border-security


    But, hey, keep telling yourself that you're right and everyone with a different point of view is wrong. Whatever it takes to get you through the day ...
    Last edit by elkpark on Feb 2 : Reason: Link to original source not working; found another source
  10. by   Lil Nel
    Quote from PMFB-RN
    One great thing about Trump's immigration order is that it immediately proves him and all his supporters who claim Trump is only against ILLEGAL immigration to be liars.
    When is Trump going to find his courage and stop appeasing ISIS?
    Unfortunately, courage isn't a virtue that Herr Trump possesses. And I'm sure it is a virtue that is of little importance to him.

    This immigration order appeases his rabid base who lack critical thinking skills. They want to be told that Herr Trump will keep them safe. The truth is, no one in this world guaranteed safety. So, it is easy to point the finger at families who are fleeing violence at say: That is the enemy! The base just falls in line because they are desperate.

    To take on ISIS, you must have a long-term plan. I highly doubt that Trump can think behind the next five hours, let alone the next five years.
  11. by   Markperry
    Quote from nursej22
    Last Sunday, in less than 24 hours, more than 1000 folks around here formed a peace vigil at the Canadian-USA border to show those crossing that we disagree with DJT. We sang " this land is your land", "one love", and of course, our national anthem. It gives some comfort to know there are many who don't hate immigrants and refugees.
    I don't think any American hates immigrants or refugees. We are trying to protect the USA from bad guys trying to come into the USA pretending to be a refugee.

    Look at the attacks they have had in France and Germany from bad guys coming in posing as refugees.

    I personally don't like the policy we have had the last 30 years on Illegal aliens and turning our head and acting like it is not an issue, but that is another story.

    If a few people are upset because their travel plans were inconvenienced, I say boo hoo. My travel plans have been inconvenienced since 9/11.

    I use to be able to walk to a gate and see a friend off and meet them when they arrived, I could walk onto a plane with a fresh pizza and a bottle of Crown Royal and have the waitress serve me my Crown/Coke once we lifted off the ground.
  12. by   elkpark
    Quote from Markperry
    I don't think any American hates immigrants or refugees.
    Steve Bannon and Stephen Miller, two of Trump's top advisers, do;, or, at least, they sure don't want them in the US:

    Steve Bannon in 216: legal immigration is the real “problem" - Vox

    Trump’s public stance has seemingly always been to keep the “bad people” out and let the smart people in. But a conversation between Bannon and Miller from March 2016, on a Breitbart News podcast first resurfaced by the Washington Post, shows Bannon and Miller may both hold a more conservative view on immigration.
    “Isn’t the beating heart of this problem, the real beating heart of it, of what we gotta get sorted here, not illegal immigration?” Bannon asked Miller. “As horrific as that is, and it’s horrific, don’t we have a problem? We’ve looked the other way on this legal immigration that’s kinda overwhelmed the country?”

    Bannon goes on to decry the “oligarchs” of Silicon Valley and Washington and call the number of immigrants in the United States “scary.” ...
  13. by   BCgradnurse
    
    Quote from Markperry
    I don't think any American hates immigrants or refugees. We are trying to protect the USA from bad guys trying to come into the USA pretending to be a refugee.

    Look at the attacks they have had in France and Germany from bad guys coming in posing as refugees.

    I personally don't like the policy we have had the last 30 years on Illegal aliens and turning our head and acting like it is not an issue, but that is another story.

    If a few people are upset because their travel plans were inconvenienced, I say boo hoo. My travel plans have been inconvenienced since 9/11.

    I use to be able to walk to a gate and see a friend off and meet them when they arrived, I could walk onto a plane with a fresh pizza and a bottle of Crown Royal and have the waitress serve me my Crown/Coke once we lifted off the ground.
    Poor baby...your life is so hard....can't bring a pizza on a plane.

    And yes, I think many Americans hate immigrants and refugees. It's been going on for years. The Irish were hated when they came over in the 1800s. A ship of Jews fleeing from Nazi Germany was turned away by FDR. Hispanic immigrants have been on the receiving end of prejudice for years. Those are just a few examples. You are either incredibly naive or delusional.

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