Trump fires FBI Director Comey!!! - page 10

Well he's done it now! The person investigating the connections to Russia and who won him the election just got the sack via television. Wonder what information Comey has on him and will he climb off... Read More

  1. by   macawake
    Quote from Spidey's mom
    "After The New York Times set off a flurry of rumors by reporting that FBI Director James Comey had asked Deputy Attorney General Rod J. Rosenstein for more funding for his investigation into possible Russian ties to the Trump campaign, prompting President Trump to fire Comey, Acting FBI Director McCabe told the Senate Intelligence Committee on Thursday that the FBI did not ask for additional funding.. ."

    "The NY Times ran with a report yesterday claiming that James Comey had asked for more resources for the investigation just before the firing. McCabe put paid to that claim as well, saying that’s not the way things work and it didn’t happen. The DOJ also denied that report."



    But the story is convoluted by "he said, she said, they said". Makes my head spin. And now they are talking about McCabe's wife.
    I missed the part where they are talking about McCabe's wife, but I guess that doesn't matter. She's probably not relevant to all this. Anyway, it wasn't only The New York Times that reported that Director Comey had asked for more resources for the Russia investigation.

    Comey wanted more resources for Russia probe, sources say | Fox News

    Fired FBI director James Comey recently asked lawmakers to help him secure more "resources" for the bureau's counterintelligence investigation of possible connections between President Trump's campaign team and Russian officials, sources told Fox News Wednesday.
    (my bold)

    The sources said Comey met with Sens. Richard Burr, R-N.C., and Mark Warner, D-Va., — the chairman and ranking member, respectively, of the Senate intelligence committee — to discuss the ongoing inquiry Monday, the day before he was fired by Trump.

    During their meeting, Burr and Warner pressed Comey to speed up the investigation. According to the sources, Comey responded that he needed more manpower and asked the senators to help him get it.
    I assume that the sources that Fox News refers to, isn't The New York Times.

    Is it true or not? Did Director Comey ask for additional resources shortly before he was terminated?

    We might find out...

    Chaffetz asks Justice Dept. watchdog to expand investigation to include Comey firing - CBS News

    House Oversight and Government Reform Chairman Rep. Jason Chaffetz (R-UT) has asked Department of Justice Inspector General Michael Horowitz to expand the scope of its ongoing review into how the FBI handled the events surrounding the 2016 presidential election to include the firing of FBI Director James Comey.
    Democrats seek new probe on whether Trump meddled with FBI - POLITICO

    Four Senate Democrats on Friday asked the Department of Justice's inspector general to open a new probe into any "political interference with the FBI’s investigation into" possible collaboration between President Donald Trump's campaign and Russian officials to upend the 2016 election.
    I've seen the letter that the four Democratic senators wrote to the Inspector General but I can't remember on which news outlet, and I can't seem to find it now. I can't swear that this is verbatim but it's probably at least close. One of the things they asked the IG to investigate was the timing of Director Comey's termination occuring just days after Mr Comey was reported to have requested additional resources for the investigation.

    Now, unless the President decides to fire IG Horowitz too we might actually find out the facts and timeline. We'll have to wait and see.



    Whether we find out or not, there is one thing that we do know. We've seen the President say that he was going to fire Director Comey regardless. The initial narrative from WH communications staff and the VP that the report from the deputy AG and the supposedly recused AG was the reason for the termination, has subsequently been contradicted by the President himself.

    We've seen the President while being interviewed about the termination of Director Comey share his thoughts on how he felt about the Trump campaign-Russia investigation conducted by the FBI. How he thought that this Russia thing with Trump and Russia is a made up story and it should in his opinion have been over with a long time ago.

    I don't care which political party a person supports, but how can anyone be comfortable with how this has unfolded?
  2. by   margin261
    Nel- I did have the thought that mark perry might've snuck back in & even amped up his ridiculousness under another name. But whether that's the case or not, my only comment for our new member jennifer is "bless your heart". It's what we say in the south when we don't have anything nice to say...

    Regarding McCabe's wife- I believe it was something about her accepting a campaign donation from someone who was a good friend/supporter of HRC. I think the article also mentioned that because of this maybe McCabe was not allowed to be a part of the HRC email investigation. It's something along those lines, which I'm sure has some all upset but in light of trump & co shenanigans seems rather tame.

    When trump was elected I felt like things weren't going to be great, but I never thought they'd be this ridiculously bad. Somewhere in my head I thought that there would be a limit to the damage he could do, because you know..congress. But I am astounded at the inaction of the republicans at this point. At each outrageous escalation, I think ok, they can't ignore this & will have to do something. But no, a few make pay lip service but the rest- Ryan, McConnell - make excuses or ignore it. trump keeps doing this crazy s**t because he's always done it & gotten away with it and is still getting away with it!! It seems to me that either some members have been there so long they've forgotten they're supposed to represent their constituents or they're only concerned with pushing their agenda through before trump crashes & burns and they know they don't have much longer. If they push their agenda or, really, the agendas big money is paying them to push through, then I guess they don't have to worry if they don't get re-elected because they'll have nice jobs waiting.

    It's just really disgusting & disheartening these people only care about their fat wallets.

    Oh, and I'm thinking the trump train is a lot like the train in Harry Potter- the people on it have banged their head too hard on a wall and it definitely has transported them to a place outside of reality.
  3. by   elkpark
    Quote from Jennifer Stewartson
    Former FBI Agents Praise Comey Firing [VIDEO]

    Former FBI agents don’t seem as surprised as the rest of the world that James Comey was fired by President Trump today.

    In fact, some of them are quite satisfied.

    James Kallstrom, former FBI Assistant Director, said he is “glad it happened.”
    “…Way back almost a year ago [Comey] kinda forgot he was the FBI director,” Kallstrom explained, going into Comey’s apparent mistakes in handling the investigation of Hillary Clinton.

    “…So he made a lot of mistakes. I think basically he’s a good guy [but] he was lacking common sense.”

    Another former Assistant Director, Bill Gavin, said he “feel[s] badly for [Comey]” but said, “it’s something that had to happen.”

    “Jim Comey is a bright guy, he’s an ethical guy, but the bottom line is, when he made a prosecutive [sic] opinion in an investigative matter he made a mistake,” Gavin asserted.

    “We all make mistakes in life, this was a big one.”

    Former Assistant Director Ron Hosko said the firing was “shocking” but not at all surprising given the context.

    “Certainly there are going to be some FBI who think he went too far back in July…I think, that is, reasonable minds can agree, the province of the prosecutor.”

    Hosko also argued that Comey had to “throw himself on a grenade” over Loretta Lynch’s meeting with Bill Clinton, and being fired was the “price he had to pay.”

    WATCH: Nothing found for 217 5 9 Fo Firing Video
    And, as usual, the non-right-wing-crackpot websites are reporting an entirely different story:

    Acting director McCabe directly contradicts that story in testimony before Congress, likely scotching his chances of getting the permanent gig by doing so.
    About that White House claim that the FBI rank and file had lost faith in James Comey... - CNNPolitics.com

    James Comey Fired: Comey Was Supported By FBI Rank & File | Time.com

    The heads of the two associations representing current and retired FBI agents, analysts and other personnel said that Comey enjoys enormous support among the 35,000 people who work for him. The many thousands of others who have retired or left the bureau also support Comey. Thomas O'Connor, a working FBI special agent who is president of the FBI Agents Association said “His support within the rank and file of the FBI is overwhelming."
    FBI Rank And File Overwhelmingly Support Comey

    “They believe in the guy, they follow his leadership,” he said, “and they knew that when Director Comey told them something, that it was accurate, Constitutional and apolitical.”

    Nancy Savage, executive director of the Society of Former Special Agents of the FBI, said many current and retired agents were hopping mad — not only about Comey’s firing, but also over how it was handled ...

    FBI agent groups dispute Trump’s rationale for Comey firing - POLITICO
  4. by   Avid reader
    Taking Down Terrorists in Court - The New Yorker

    These are the people that Trump and his cronies don't get and never will. They live in their isolated world amongst people like themselves who echo the same speil and miss the nuances of many varied culture around them and just how much they contribute to life in our country.

    Not all Muslims are bad only the radicalized ones and the same goes for the Hispanics re crime. However, when you generalize so broadly you force allegiances and loyalties and then segregate and alienate diasporas not only here but internationally, you create enemies. All these people have extended families that contains circles like Venn diagrams. They are all influenced. Like throwing a pebble into a pond and the ripples touching many banks.

    Knowledge of rudimentary history eg the Japanese interment in the second world war allows you the insight to understand the complexities of your words and possible implications. I chose this article specifically to highlight that they could have enabled so many people to strike out against us and we the public aren't barricaded and protected, so we personally bear the brunt. This is why Obama tread lightly and used diplomacy. Such nuances are lost on the current administration and the people who elected them.

    Such is the consequence of ignorance because it's always others who suffer. The best most easiest understood example, North Korea. I personally know North Koreans and they are reticent people but occasionally they tell you of the atrocities. Rice rationing, bowing to statues of Lil Kim and pictures. Saving for ages for rice cookers, the electrical blackouts whilst the selected few and those are very few, enjoy what would be considered a lower middle class income, which is extraordinary in North Korea.

    You would have to be an absolute moron to think that immigrants are not overwhelmingly law abiding with an entrepreneurial drive and desire to succeed that far exceeds our own. Now almost all immigrants I talk to from every nation feel they are targeted. That's what this administration has done!
  5. by   chare
    Quote from heron
    What "wild, bizarre claims" would those be, chare?
    Thank you. As I reread my post it became clear that the use of “wild, bizarre…” reflects my opinion and was a poor choice of words. Further, considering that I directed my comments to members on only one side of the discussion, knowing full well that my concern applied to both sides, compounds my error.

    As it is never my intent to intentionally alienate anyone with any of my posts, I apologize for the poor wording of the post in question.
  6. by   macawake
    Quote from chare
    Thank you. As I reread my post it became clear that the use of “wild, bizarre…” reflects my opinion and was a poor choice of words. Further, considering that I directed my comments to members on only one side of the discussion, knowing full well that my concern applied to both sides, compounds my error.

    As it is never my intent to intentionally alienate anyone with any of my posts, I apologize for the poor wording of the post in question.
    Considering how acrimonious the political forum sometimes gets, I must say that I think that your transgression was relatively minor. We've seen posters who make name-calling a sport and some seem to join this forum for the sole purpose of stirring the pot and being generally obnoxious. I know that I've on occasion been more snarky in my posts than you were in the one you're referring to.

    This most recent post you've made in my opinion demonstrates a capacity for self-reflection and maturity on your part. I hope I don't come off as patronizing, I mean this as a sincere compliment. I just wanted to share that
  7. by   PMFB-RN
    From the NY Post link:
    Ahmad’s specialty is counterterrorism, her subspecialty “extraterritorial” cases, which means that she spends a great deal of time overseas, negotiating with foreign officials, interviewing witnesses, often in prison, and combing the ground for evidence in terror-related crimes against Americans. She spends time in American prisons as well, typically with convicted jihadists. A former supervisor of Ahmad’s told me that she has probably logged more hours talking to “legitimate Al Qaeda members, hardened terrorist killers,” than any other prosecutor in America.
    I'm happy she is on OUR side!
  8. by   Avid reader
    Preet Bharara: Are there still public servants who will say no to the president? - The Washington Post

    Well we know which side Preet Bohara is on and what he thinks of his friend Comey being axed. Imagine having those two against you and Yates as well!!
  9. by   Avid reader
    I think his admiration of dictatators have more to do with their flagrant disregard for law and process. My father emailed me last night and said it's almost like watching a Western movie from the old days where the law was made up depending on location. He said he will never complain again about English laws and infractions. Where he lives a pub fight with a a possible hospitalized beating would be the crime of the year. They haven't even got a policeman available because they are not needed. Church bake sales and Xmas pantos are the year's events. I really yearn for that now with no stress except being made fun of for being an American.
  10. by   margin261
    Avid- Totally not discounting your thoughts regarding trump & dictators, but my opinion of his admiration for for dictators is that he really doesn't much take into consideration their specific actions, just that they're viewed as "strong"- which is something he seems to be obsessed with.
    He doesn't appear to a contemplative guy, and certainly places more value on style over substance. He seems to gloss right over Duterte sanctioning the execution of his own people but hey, his people do what he says (out of fear) so he must be strong, right?

    He's said similar things about Assad being strong, leaving out the atrocities on his own people. He's said admiring things about what all Kim Jong Un has accomplished at such a young age. Making no comment that he's apparently a bit unhinged as well & might cause a few issues. We all know by now about his man-crush on Putin, and if only that was all it was!!

    He made comments all through campaign & since election about people being weak, and about decisions being 'strong'. I think it's a fear of his to be seen as weak.
  11. by   Avid reader
    Quote from margin261
    Avid- Totally not discounting your thoughts regarding trump & dictators, but my opinion of his admiration for for dictators is that he really doesn't much take into consideration their specific actions, just that they're viewed as "strong"- which is something he seems to be obsessed with.
    He doesn't appear to a contemplative guy, and certainly places more value on style over substance. He seems to gloss right over Duterte sanctioning the execution of his own people but hey, his people do what he says (out of fear) so he must be strong, right?

    He's said similar things about Assad being strong, leaving out the atrocities on his own people. He's said admiring things about what all Kim Jong Un has accomplished at such a young age. Making no comment that he's apparently a bit unhinged as well & might cause a few issues. We all know by now about his man-crush on Putin, and if only that was all it was!!

    He made comments all through campaign & since election about people being weak, and about decisions being 'strong'. I think it's a fear of his to be seen as weak.
    I think you are dead right that it is all about image. From some previous research when he was in New York and going through his divorce from one of his wives, he apparently was worried that he wasn't getting enough publicity as his wife and barracked his PR people and I think firing some of them. Now what sort of mind whilst going through an acrimonious divorce in a public forum would possibly be thinking about publicity instead of his family's destruction?

    I remember distinctly because I shuddered knowing a little about mental health, just how barmy he must be.
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  13. by   TriChick
    Quote from Jennifer Stewartson
    Trump has been President a little over 3 months, did Obama get it passed in 3 months?

    Other countries now respect us and understand that we have taken our place as the World Leader.

    With Obama we turned our backs on our allies, Obama was pro muslim whose intent was to infest the USA with Illegal Aliens and bring in Muslims with radical views opposed to the USA way of life.


    Obama was more concerned with gay marriage and letting men use the ladies restroom, Obama was a national disgrace and it will take years to get rid of his liberal views he spread through out the USA.
    I won't even begin to entertain the other claims, however this is insane. I say that as a veteran who has worked the counterinsurgency mission.

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