Trump condemns violence erupting at white nationalist protest - page 3

Trump responded about an hour after the governor of Virginia declared an emergency. "We ALL must be united & condemn all that hate stands for. There is no place for this kind of violence in... Read More

  1. by   azhiker96
    BCgradnurse, I don't support White Supremists. I also don't support violence by them or any other group. I do support the First Amendment right to hold peaceful rallies and peaceful protests.

    I'm sickened by videos of frustrated drivers plowing through protesters who are blocking roads. There is no excuse for that. Also, the police are failing their job to keep the streets clear. Ultimately we end up trying to repair broken bodies and the damage can be horrific.

    I have not commented in most of the political threads because I find them to be a toxic environment. The Left has done a great job of framing nearly all of Trump's agenda as racist and therefore those who voted for Trump or who still support him are racists. I don't like to play that way.

    So no, you won't find many comments from me.
  2. by   toomuchbaloney
    I find it really odd that liberals had to tolerate 8 years of the proliferation of outright lies about Obama while being called libtards. We still participated in the discussions. Now, nearly 8 months into this administration the conservatives just can't take the liberal discussion and dislike of Trump, they hide and lurk.

    And they call liberals "snowflakes".
  3. by   azhiker96
    Quote from toomuchbaloney
    I find it really odd that liberals had to tolerate 8 years of the proliferation of outright lies about Obama while being called libtards. We still participated in the discussions. Now, nearly 8 months into this administration the conservatives just can't take the liberal discussion and dislike of Trump, they hide and lurk.

    And they call liberals "snowflakes".
    I can't remember ever personally calling people or Presidents names. That is a poor excuse often given for stooping to the same low level.

    I have found trying to discuss anything with people who generalize and name call is a waste of time. It's like wrestling a pig. You both get dirty but the pig enjoys it.
  4. by   Lil Nel
    Honestly, BC, I don't know what you would expect some of the conservative posters to this site to say (I am not referring to you, AZHiker96). What can they say?

    During the election, EVERYBODY knew that White Nationalists were early supporters of Trump. There is no way anyone could claim ignorance to that fact. It was widely broadcast throughout the mainstream media. Even conservative news media identified the Alt Right as supporters of Trump. Steve Bannon gave the Alt-Right a forum, for goodness sake. He is part of Trump's inner circle and WH.

    The founder of the Daily Storm is a 20-something looking ginger, pictured wearing a MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN HAT in the NYDailyNews. So, what can these folks say? Nothing. That is why they are silent. No surprise.

    As I have already stated: History will not treat these folks kindly. Unlike good Germans during WWII, they can't fall back on ignorance.



    They knew they were making a bed with bigots, yet, that is the route they chose.
  5. by   BCgradnurse
    Quote from Lil Nel
    Honestly, BC, I don't know what you would expect some of the conservative posters to this site to say (I am not referring to you, AZHiker96). What can they say?

    During the election, EVERYBODY knew that White Nationalists were early supporters of Trump. There is no way anyone could claim ignorance to that fact. It was widely broadcast throughout the mainstream media. Even conservative news media identified the Alt Right as supporters of Trump. Steve Bannon gave the Alt-Right a forum, for goodness sake. He is part of Trump's inner circle and WH.

    The founder of the Daily Storm is a 20-something looking ginger, pictured wearing a MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN HAT in the NYDailyNews. So, what can these folks say? Nothing. That is why they are silent. No surprise.

    As I have already stated: History will not treat these folks kindly. Unlike good Germans during WWII, they can't fall back on ignorance.



    They knew they were making a bed with bigots, yet, that is the route they chose.
    I don't know, Nel-I guess I'm an eternal optimist. I am hoping that the events of the last few days might be an eye opener for some Conservatives/Trump supporters. That maybe this would be a tipping point, and some might step forward and say "Enough, this is wrong. I am against this". Silly me.
    Last edit by BCgradnurse on Aug 14
  6. by   Lil Nel
    I commend you for being an optimist, BC. I really do.

    But I think it was the Progressive side who really had their eyes opened this weekend. Yeah, we all know the KKK and company as the fringe element, but until Charlottesville, I think few realized how SERIOUS and well ARMED these wackos are. They, and Trump are a very serious threat to our country.

    And by that, I don't mean to engage in my usual anti-Trump rhetoric. I mean SERIOUS threat to the basic stability of the country. This people are armed with assault-style weapons, and marched to the front door of a prestigious university. Any reasonable person should be shaken to their core.
  7. by   herring_RN
    The name callers were here before and soon after the election. They posted cut and pasted pages of posts.
    They've been gone since violating the TOS.
  8. by   elkpark
    Quote from Lil Nel
    I commend you for being an optimist, BC. I really do.

    But I think it was the Progressive side who really had their eyes opened this weekend. Yeah, we all know the KKK and company as the fringe element, but until Charlottesville, I think few realized how SERIOUS and well ARMED these wackos are. They, and Trump are a very serious threat to our country.

    And by that, I don't mean to engage in my usual anti-Trump rhetoric. I mean SERIOUS threat to the basic stability of the country. This people are armed with assault-style weapons, and marched to the front door of a prestigious university. Any reasonable person should be shaken to their core.
    The SPLC has been tracking and reporting on these groups for years. Plenty of information is available.
  9. by   toomuchbaloney
    Quote from azhiker96
    I can't remember ever personally calling people or Presidents names. That is a poor excuse often given for stooping to the same low level.

    I have found trying to discuss anything with people who generalize and name call is a waste of time. It's like wrestling a pig. You both get dirty but the pig enjoys it.
    Perhaps you didn't.
    Proud and loud conservatives trolling against Obama or for Trump did - regularly and routinely.
    Silence is complicit.
  10. by   BCgradnurse
    *error*
    Last edit by BCgradnurse on Aug 14
  11. by   herring_RN
    Written by an RN who worked in the Charlottesville ER Saturday
    A Charlottesville ER Nurse speaks after a day of decompression.
    I’ve sat here at my keyboard staring at the blinking cursor for awhile. There’s words inside me that need to come out about what happened in our community yesterday...
    ... It doesn’t help either that our community isn’t out from under the specter of the Nazis who visited us- there are vigils across the country for Charlottesville, but our own vigil was canceled because of a credible threat by white supremacists to invade it and take it over.
    They were here because we were a huge target for them; ranked the “happiest city in the United States”...
    A Charlottesville ER Nurse speaks after a day of decompression.
  12. by   BCgradnurse
    From Dan Rather:

    Finally. Finally. President Trump has spoken out, but his silence over the past two days says more than his words today.

    America was hit by a terrorist attack. We have seen Nazis marching in our streets in torchlight parades with the infamous salute and the swastika abundantly presented. We have seen the kind of hatred that has torn this country apart in the past praised and encouraged. Mr. Trump has faced withering criticism for his failure to denounce Nazis and Klansmen, even from many in his own party. Viewed in this light, his statement today had the feeling of political defensiveness not moral clarity.

    Where was the passion to fight homegrown terrorism? Where was the determination to root out hatred and prejudice? Where was the heartfelt assurances that all Americans have the right to live in a peaceful and tolerant nation?

    We have heard the glee with which the President has called immigrants rapists and murders. We have seen him smile broadly as he denounces the press as enemies of America. We have seen his eyes sparkle as he dismisses our inner cities as depraved wastelands. I didn't see any of that conviction in his words today.

    Furthermore, I learned as a child that actions speak louder than words. It is a lesson I have seen repeated countless times as a journalist. Even if President Trump had said the right things from the beginning of this tragedy in Charlottesville, his administration is using the Justice Department, under Attorney General Jeff Sessions, to implement policies that many across the political spectrum have said are racially divisive.

    Presidents are judged in times of crisis. The best ones are heralded for the boldness and integrity of their leadership - not saying the bare minimum (I repeat about Nazi terrorists) a few days after the fact.
  13. by   herring_RN
    Today on the Nazi web site:
    Just a moment...

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