Thoughts on Vegas And why Men Keep Doing This - page 3

America has been awash in guns for a very long time, yet mass shooting are a fairly recent phenomenon. I'm not the only one who has realized it's always men. Very interesting read that in some... Read More

  1. by   herring_RN
    Quote from Farawyn
    ...or wonderful!!!
    This reminded me of a woman who was in her sixties in 1972 when she read the book, "Everything You Always Wanted to Know About Sex * But Were Afraid to Ask".
    She said after reading that she was almost too embarrassed to shop for produce. She blushed when looking at cucumbers, especially the waxed ones.
  2. by   Ruby Vee
    Quote from heron
    To return to the article posted in the OP, it seems to be describing elements of what many of us refer to as toxic masculinity. It kind of tiptoes around the subject and never addresses the other roots of the rage that arises from the emotional isolation and depression that plague men in our culture (i.e. entitlement, rape culture, dehumanization of women as the original "other") A subject for another thread, I think.

    That being said, those of us who have worked on domestic violence are familiar with the concept of the rage junkie. Violence is an addiction and while one needs eventually to address the underlying issues, the first step must be to stop indulging the addiction.
    It seems that one thing the shooters have in common is disrespect of women. The Vegas shooter was known to berate his girlfriend publicly. The Texas shooter had a domestic violence conviction and had threatened his mother-in-law who was a member of the church he shot up. Many mass killings start with a domestic violence beef . . . he shows up at her best friend's house with a gun and a rage on because he KNOWS the best friend is hiding his wife from him. He's enraged about losing control of the wife who is divorcing him, so he shows up at the divorce hearing with a gun and kills her, wounds a couple of attorneys and commits suicide by cop. He's so sure his wife is cheating on him that he shows up at her office and kills a bunch of people, including her. Kid bludgeons his mother and sisters to death because his abusive father taught him how to treat women folk who disagree with you. A guy with a gun and really bad aim shows up in the work parking lot to kill his girlfriend "and that guy she's with" and ends up wounding several employees, including the girlfriend and her boss. A husband and father (a nurse) shoots his wife, three children and himself.

    Perhaps the rage junkie thread would be an important one to start.
  3. by   heron
    I agree, Ruby - but I fear such a thread would attract the red pill crowd and quickly get locked.
  4. by   toomuchbaloney
    I think it has been posted before that many mass shootings are directed at a specific woman and include the children or people near her at the time.
  5. by   sanakruz
    Sexism is the culprit. It doesn't only affect women and girls...
  6. by   toomuchbaloney
    Quote from sanakruz
    Sexism is the culprit. It doesn't only affect women and girls...
    Sexism is PRIMARILY directed at women. However, if a woman is in a position of power or authority over a man he could certainly be a victim of sexism.

    Similarly, men can also be victims of domestic violence, but it would be ridiculous to suggest that they are equally terrorized or harmed by domestic violence as a group.
  7. by   SC_RNDude
  8. by   toomuchbaloney
    I can't read this on my phone without downloading a document. That requires data.
  9. by   Farawyn
    Quote from toomuchbaloney
    Sexism is PRIMARILY directed at women. However, if a woman is in a position of power or authority over a man he could certainly be a victim of sexism.

    Similarly, men can also be victims of domestic violence, but it would be ridiculous to suggest that they are equally terrorized or harmed by domestic violence as a group.
    I love you baloneys. I really do.
  10. by   Lil Nel
    anhttps://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-nation/wp/2017/11/15/california-rampage-death-toll-increases-to-5-as-police-say-gunman-killed-his-wife-before-attacking-school/?hpid=hp_hp-top-table-main_california-155p%3Ahomepage%2Fstory&utm_term=.3dbd4af3d0

    Yet another mentally unstable person with unfettered access to guns has committed another act of gun violence.

    But hey, the terrorist group the NRA, and the Bum, don't want the mentally unstable separated from their guns. And I believe the latest man used the beloved AR-15 to kill. His weapon was described as semi-automatic, so I am guessing it is the friendly and easy to use AR-15.

    All I can do is shake my head, and wonder about the sensibilities of some of my fellow citizens who refuse to acknowledge the problem, or do anything about it. Perhaps they will reap what they sow, one day.
  11. by   nursej22
    I have yet to see or read about messages of "thoughts and prayers."

    Except the DJT tweeted about Sutherland Springs, Texas this morning. That happened a week ago. Jet lag, or dementia?
  12. by   toomuchbaloney
    The shooter also had a history of domestic violence, but he wasn't a Muslim so we don't have to worry about it or do anything besides pray.
  13. by   SC_RNDude

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