The Twenty–fifth Amendment

  1. TWENTY-FIFTH AMENDMENT
    PRESIDENTIAL VACANCY, DISABILITY, AND INABILITY
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  2. 11 Comments

  3. by   herring_RN
    I hear people joke, "If you remember the sixties you weren't there."
    Many of us remember well.

    Our President John Kennedy was killed. Lyndon Johnson was sworn in as President.
    He choose Hubert Humphrey to be Vice President.

    Humphrey became the Democratic nominee for president in 1968 even though he never ran in a primary.
    Robert Kennedy was killed after winning the California primary.
    Richard Nixon won the 1968 election and became president.

    In the 1970s Nixon's Vice President Agnew plead guilty to income tax fraud after being investigated for bribery, extortion, and other crimes.
    Gerald Ford was appointed Vice President.
    When President Nixon resigned Ford became president without running for either office.

    Interesting times.
  4. by   Extra Pickles
    Have no doubt that this Administration will be one for the history books, talked about WELL into the future. Infamy has a way of doing that!
  5. by   nursej22
    We may not need the 25th Ammendment or even impeachment. I read today where John Kelly, a former general, contradicted Trump about deportations being a military operation.

    This was after Secretary of Defense Mattis, another former general, said we are not taking Iraqi oil.

    The new national security advisor is an active duty general, with a reputation of questioning authority.

    Are we looking at a possible junta?
  6. by   herring_RN
    Quote from nursej22
    We may not need the 25th Ammendment or even impeachment. I read today where John Kelly, a former general, contradicted Trump about deportations being a military operation.

    This was after Secretary of Defense Mattis, another former general, said we are not taking Iraqi oil.

    The new national security advisor is an active duty general, with a reputation of questioning authority.

    Are we looking at a possible junta?
    I hope not.
    I am glad the cabinet members are making sense by not stating they will violate the Constitution.

    https://en.oxforddictionaries.com/definition/junta
  7. by   toomuchbaloney
    Will this be the first time that people have ever stood against Trump? He is accustomed to being surrounded by yes men.
  8. by   elkpark
    Quote from nursej22
    We may not need the 25th Ammendment or even impeachment. I read today where John Kelly, a former general, contradicted Trump about deportations being a military operation.

    This was after Secretary of Defense Mattis, another former general, said we are not taking Iraqi oil.

    The new national security advisor is an active duty general, with a reputation of questioning authority.

    Are we looking at a possible junta?
    Nah, they're just cleaning up the mess each time he opens his mouth and reveals how little he understands about how the government and the law (or even just the English language) work ... I wonder how long it will take for the reasonable, intelligent people who have signed on with his administration to get tired of dealing all of the nonsense they're going to have to deal with, and decide to bail.
  9. by   nursej22
    Quote from elkpark
    Nah, they're just cleaning up the mess each time he opens his mouth and reveals how little he understands about how the government and the law (or even just the English language) work ... I wonder how long it will take for the reasonable, intelligent people who have signed on with his administration to get tired of dealing all of the nonsense they're going to have to deal with, and decide to bail.
    Perhaps, but what if McMaster says Bannon has no place on the National Security Principals Council, want him removed, and Trump refuses. What if Trump demands Kelly and Mattis's resignations for defying him, and they refuse?

    I agree, that Trump and his closest advisors, other than Priebus, have no idea how government works. Emerging stories of the incompetence are astonishing.

    And there is Pence, standing by, biding his time, until Trump is gone (or removed). {{Shudder}}
    Last edit by nursej22 on Feb 24
  10. by   elkpark
    Quote from nursej22
    Perhaps, but what if McMaster says Bannon has no place on the National Security Principals Council, want him removed, and Trump refuses. What if Trump demands Kelly and Mattis's resignations for defying him, and they refuse?

    I agree, that Trump and his closest advisors, other than Priebus, have no idea how government works. Emerging stories of the incompetence are astonishing.

    And there is Pence, standing by, biding his time, until Trump is gone (or removed). {{Shudder}}
    I would bet large sums of money that McMaster, Kelly, and Mattis would just resign quietly, rather than initiate a military coup. They are reasonable, sane, responsible professionals (unlike our Groper-in-Chief and his various sycophants and minions).
  11. by   margin261
    It is my feeling- based on nothing concrete- that the Republicans in Congress will move to impeach trump after they've used him to pass all their pet projects/legislation they haven't been able to pass the last 8 years.

    While trump is in the news everyday- every hour- saying something outrageous, doing something ridiculous- they are working frantically and quietly rolling back every Obama regulation they can.

    I think, when they don't need his rubber stamp, or they are pretty sure Pence will agree to work with them- they will turn on trump. But now it looks as if they may not need the 25th amendment. Every day the Russia is looking worse & worse. And if they can impeach Clinton for lying about oral sex, surely they can impeach trump for his multiple lies regarding Russia?

    I don't like Pence's policies, I think he would throw women's & LGBTQ rights back into 1950's (or before) but I think that possibly the awful, hateful, divisive rhetoric that spews from the WH now would stop.
  12. by   ElvishDNP
    Quote from margin261
    It is my feeling- based on nothing concrete- that the Republicans in Congress will move to impeach trump after they've used him to pass all their pet projects/legislation they haven't been able to pass the last 8 years.

    While trump is in the news everyday- every hour- saying something outrageous, doing something ridiculous- they are working frantically and quietly rolling back every Obama regulation they can.

    I think, when they don't need his rubber stamp, or they are pretty sure Pence will agree to work with them- they will turn on trump. But now it looks as if they may not need the 25th amendment. Every day the Russia is looking worse & worse. And if they can impeach Clinton for lying about oral sex, surely they can impeach trump for his multiple lies regarding Russia?

    I don't like Pence's policies, I think he would throw women's & LGBTQ rights back into 1950's (or before) but I think that possibly the awful, hateful, divisive rhetoric that spews from the WH now would stop.
    I see this pretty much the same way as you. I think Trump is being used - not that I feel bad for him, mind you, but I don't think he will serve out his 4yr term either. By design.

    Pence is just as dislikable as Trump, but I don't think he'll be starting WWIII on Twitter either.
  13. by   toomuchbaloney
    Perhaps the question is how quickly could an unstable and unqualified American President start a major war?

    Krauthammer published an interesting opinion today, "President Donald Trump and the 'Madman' Theory".

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