The President Donald Trump Thread - page 75

I thought I would create a thread where we can talk about what he's currently up to. No particular topic but one that's ongoing with what he's doing and saying. I'll start with this speech on... Read More

  1. by   Spidey's mom
    Quote from toomuchbaloney
    Woman or not, it is patriarchal thinking to suggest that the leading woman in a contest should step aside to allow new faces. It just is. Her likability is not the issue. The notion that she should metaphorically sit down and be quiet is patriarchal.

    Politics is a good old boys game. Nobody steps aside to allow new faces.
    You are assuming those are the reasons I wanted her to go away.

    They aren't.
  2. by   macawake
    Quote from Spidey's mom
    I know all that. But thanks.
    I'm glad you do but in my opinion that makes your "that's funny but I'm a girl" response to toomuchbaloney's post, a bit of a head-scratcher.

    Toomuchbaloney's post was:

    I find the notion that Hillary Clinton needed to "step aside to let new faces in" to be evidence of the patriarchal thinking that permeates our society.
    and you responding with "but I'm a girl" when most/all of us have already likely assumed (from your username if nothing else), that you're a woman.. seems to me like you were saying... something.... ? What was your reason for pointing out your gender in this context? I don't really understand (hence the head-scratching .

    ALL women do not think or vote alike.
    Of course they don't.

    I'd love to see more libertarian and/or conservative women in politics.
    I agree. Women make up approximately 1/2 of your country's population but only 1/5 of those with the power to shape/decide your legislation and which course your society/country takes.

    Patriarchy - definition of patriarchy by The Free Dictionary

    2.
    a. Dominance of a society by men, or the values that uphold such dominance.

    b. The collection of men in positions of power, exerting such dominance. In all senses also called patriarchate
    Hmmm...




    So yeah, more women. But not liberal women.
    I'm hoping that this only means that you want more conservative politicians in power in general (which would be logical and expected from a conservative perspective) and that it doesn't mean that you think that liberal women are somehow a worse proposition than liberal men. ?

    It's my belief that you need more women of all political persuasions. Period. (and of course a mix of politicians that reflects the ethnic mix of the population).
  3. by   PMFB-RN
    Quote from BCgradnurse
    I am very much looking forward to seeing who Democrats put forth for 2020.

    If the Democrats were smart ( and I see no indication of that), they will run Tom Hanks in 2020.
  4. by   toomuchbaloney
    It won't matter who runs for the liberal spotin the 2020 election cycle if we continue to believe the messaging of the GOP and Russian propaganda that is still driving the political narrative.
  5. by   BCgradnurse
    Quote from Spidey's mom
    Ah, anecdotal proof that women don't think alike! Which is great!

    (Well, you and I do share a common love of dirt and plants and such ).

    LOL . . . I quoted you before you added "Mitch McConnell clones"!
    We also both love vaccines....
  6. by   BCgradnurse
    Quote from PMFB-RN
    If the Democrats were smart ( and I see no indication of that), they will run Tom Hanks in 2020.
    I'm kind of hoping for Al Franken.
  7. by   herring_RN
    The President called Kim Jong un a "smart cookie.
    The President called James Comey a "nut job".
  8. by   toomuchbaloney
    Quote from herring_RN
    The President called Kim Jong un a "smart cookie.
    The President called James Comey a "nut job".
    Trump seems inspired and impressed by tyrants and despots. That is somewhat alarming in combination with his disdain for our Constitution and the restraint it places on his position.
  9. by   Avid reader
    Quote from Spidey's mom
    That's funny because I'm a girl . . . and I don't suffer from patriarchal thinking.

    I was speaking only of Hillary. I'm tired of her.

    Speaking only for myself here.
    I suffer from patriarchal thinking. My father shaped every aspect of my thoughts and reactions and did so deliberately and skillfully. From aged five very specific books to present, he Skype's weekly to discuss what we are both reading and why. Incredibly biased where dads are concerned. I still have to run most decisions pass him because (expletive) he has some sort of sixth sense that renders almost all of my decisions shallow and lacking. Just saying.
    Last edit by Avid reader on May 20 : Reason: Punctuation
  10. by   Avid reader
    Quote from Spidey's mom
    Thanks.

    Here is one current issue in California that is causing concern in high schools. Via Jerry Brown. All 4 of my kids grew up in 4-H and FFA as did my husband. It is important to offer other options to high school kids.
    I understand that you feel this way however there are many instances of credible intellects originating from very impoverished nations from both a nutritional aspect and lack of educational opportunities or resources. I think we make excuses because I run into MBA's frequently who are so lacking in obvious business skills and basic common sense yet are post grads. I personally think that it is up to the parents to instill the curiousity and imagination necessary for creating intelligence.
  11. by   Avid reader
    Quote from toomuchbaloney
    Trump seems inspired and impressed by tyrants and despots. That is somewhat alarming in combination with his disdain for our Constitution and the restraint it places on his position.
    I think Trump is an instinctual creature both re intelligence and behaviors. I don't doubt that he is probably intelligent but it is instinctive intelligence as opposed to educated intelligence where process is fundamental before reactions and conclusions. His followers are very probably of the same illk which is why he resonates and appeals. They are not used to inquiring about anything which is why almost all of their existence is simplified which I am not criticizing, simply analyzing.

    An Audi doesn't appeal because it's complicated using advance technology to produce it's performance as opposed to a Chevy which is much more simple in that huge engine means more power. If anyone has been to a Trump establishment the garishness and vulgarity of the look explains a lot as opposed to understated refined quality. I think that's how his mind must look. All flash and no Substance!

    This is why raw power is what he knows and likes instead of subtlety and nuance to get what he wants because underlying is lack of depth and knowledge to ever substantiate anything. And, YET, supposedly intelligent politicians are unable to see the brashness and impulsivity or are willing to look pass to further their own aspirations at the cost of lost integrity and credibility. That level of hypocrisy is exceedingly above the norms of regular people and should be identified and excoriated for the pathology it represents and such individuals "Scarlett Lettered"
    Essentially they will willingly sell their souls for a trifle!
  12. by   tntrn
    Jerry Brown is a kook and a dangerous kook at that. I lived in CA when he was governor the last time....probably when the kook part of him was just beginning to really surface. His latest has been to call the taxpayers of California "freeloaders" because they oppose his exorbitant gas tax increase proposals.

    If our son and his family didn't live there, we would NEVER set foot in state again......well, maybe to see Spidey's Mom.
  13. by   toomuchbaloney
    The most dangerous kook, the kookiest kook of all kooks is Trump.
    Hands down, no contest DJT is the poster child for kooky.

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