The President Donald Trump Thread - page 179

I thought I would create a thread where we can talk about what he's currently up to. No particular topic but one that's ongoing with what he's doing and saying. I'll start with this speech on... Read More

  1. by   elkpark
    Quote from MunoRN
    I think normally with government shutdowns you could argue that there is plenty of blame to go around, but this one clearly falls on Trump. He stated the criteria of a bill he would sign, then when that was offered to him he completely changed his tune, then failed to offer any sort of clue of what he was looking for.
    Back before he was in the White House, Trump insisted repeatedly that government shutdowns are always the president's responsibility (back when he was criticizing Obama). So I'm sure he's happy to take complete responsibility for this one ...

    Then and now: Trump on government shutdowns - CNN Video
  2. by   elkpark
    Quote from itsybitsy
    Hence why the majority of your clothing says "Made in China".

    Trump wants to turn that around, and bring back jobs here. He is basically making, whoever makes the suits, ties, and socks with the Trump name on them, come and manufacture here, if they want to make a profit. He can't himself decide that, because like I said, he doesn't own those companies, only lets them use his name. But he can imposed higher taxes on apparel imports, making the cheap labor in the other countries, null and void, in the grand scheme of things. So really, he is doing what you say he should do, as best he can.
    Not the majority of my clothing -- I've been boycotting China for decades, because of their human rights record, and do not buy clothing made in China. Haven't in decades.

    It's highly disingenuous to say that Trump can't help that the clothing and other products with his name on them are made in China; if he really believed his own rhetoric (as opposed to just spouting off whatever is politically expedient at a particular time), he would simply refuse to license his name to products that are made outside the US (would have done so all these years). He doesn't own the companies, but he owns his own name, and he makes the decisions about to whom to license his name.
  3. by   Lil Nel
    I don't agree with Rand Paul very often, but every once in a while, I like what he has to say. In the case of the shutdown, he voted for it, and in this article, offers up a possible solution that makes sense.

    Democrats, GOP hold out hope for ending government shutdown
  4. by   Tweety
    Trump's response to the the Women's Marches was typically clueless and self-serving.

    His Tweet "Beautiful weather all over our great country, a perfect day for all Women to March. Get out there now to celebrate the historic milestones and unprecedented economic success and wealth creation that has taken place over the last 12 months. Lowest female unemployment in 18 years!"

    Yes, we have a good economy right now.

    First of all women still make 80 cents to the dollar compared to men. Women, such especially single and minority women are more likely to live in poverty. These women need the safety nets that the President is dismantling, including health care for children. Not to mention sexual harassment, rape, on and on.

    Second, any decent president, even Bush probably, would take a moment and at least put lip service to "I hear your concerns, let's talk about it and see what we can do....."
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  5. by   BCgradnurse
    Quote from Tweety
    Trump's response to the the Women's Marches was typically clueless and self-serving.

    His Tweet "Beautiful weather all over our great country, a perfect day for all Women to March. Get out there now to celebrate the historic milestones and unprecedented economic success and wealth creation that has taken place over the last 12 months. Lowest female unemployment in 18 years!"

    First of all women still make 80 cents to the dollar compared to men. Women, such especially single and minority women are more likely to live in poverty. These women need the safety nets that the President is dismantling, including health care for children.

    Second, any decent president, even Bush probably, would take a moment and at least put lip service to "I hear your concerns, let's talk about it and see what we can do....."
    The operative words being "decent president". There's nothing decent about him. He's made it clear that womens' concerns are to be brushed aside, and women are objects to him. Ugh-he even sexualizes his own daughter.
  6. by   SC_RNDude
    Quote from elkpark
    Back before he was in the White House, Trump insisted repeatedly that government shutdowns are always the president's responsibility (back when he was criticizing Obama). So I'm sure he's happy to take complete responsibility for this one ...

    Then and now: Trump on government shutdowns - CNN Video
    213 Shutdown Rants: Schumer, 'Wrong, Chaos,' Pelosi, 'Legislative arsonists'
  7. by   Lil Nel
    I am not interested in continuing to assign blame for this shutdown. We all have the person, or party we believe is to blame, and nothing will change any of our minds.

    But as I stated earlier, nobody, not Democrat or Republican or Trump supporter should be anything be ashamed of the fact that our government is funded in increments of months and weeks.

    This is NOT how a first-world nation should operate.

    Temporary spending bills that last three weeks or three months are a sign of failure. It is a sign that something is terribly wrong with our democracy. This is not how a stable government is supposed to operate.

    I agree with what John McCain had to say about this latest fiasco.
  8. by   toomuchbaloney
    It was interesting to me that both in 2013 and in 2018, healthcare for the least among us is a bargaining tool for by republicans. In 2013 they didn't want to fund healthcare because as Paul Ryan insisted, it was all about fiscal responsibility. Today Mr. Ryan doesn't seem remotely concerned about fiscal responsibility (he will soon be very concerned about it again when he talks about entitlement reform). The CHiP funding was apparently held back in the fall, so that they could use it as another bargaining point.

    Most Americans want DACA fixed. The Republicans are simply using these issues to achieve a political agenda that most Americans don't support.

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