The President Donald Trump Thread - page 165

I thought I would create a thread where we can talk about what he's currently up to. No particular topic but one that's ongoing with what he's doing and saying. I'll start with this speech on... Read More

  1. by   Lil Nel
    This article supports what most of us already know.

    'Thanks, but no thanks' - Norwegians reject Trump's immigration offer
  2. by   Lil Nel
    Well, I certainly don't disagree with the point made by David Brooks.

    However, it doesn't mean that there is a decline in the number of folks who simply despise the man. In fact, I think the list is ever growing given his latest outrageous moves and utterances.

    And yes, I know people who support Trump. Yes, we don't discuss him, just as Brooks stated in the opinion piece. If we did, it would cause me to question why these people are a part of my life.
  3. by   herring_RN
    A couple who are members at my husband's lodge has been our neighbor for half a century.
    When we first knew them they were married to different partners.
    Back in the 1970s she left her abusive husband. She raised three kids working as a waitress. I've heard her story many times.
    She didn't date until her kids were in high school.
    He is now a retired union construction worker. He volunteered at his kids school after he and his first wife divorced. Her kids went to that school.
    They married the same month her youngest graduated high school. He is good to her and her kids. He is polite and helpful with everyone in the neighborhood and the club.
    He voted for President Trump. He sometimes says good things about him and blames Democrats for whatever isn't done as he hoped.
    Most change the subject when politics are mentioned. Only his lifelong friend argues with him. Listening to this is unpleasant, but after a time they change the topic to sports.
    I like him for what he does, so can ignore stuff he says.
  4. by   BCgradnurse
    Quote from herring_RN
    A couple who are members at my husband's lodge has been our neighbor for half a century.
    When we first knew them they were married to different partners.
    Back in the 1970s she left her abusive husband. She raised three kids working as a waitress. I've heard her story many times.
    She didn't date until her kids were in high school.
    He is now a retired union construction worker. He volunteered at his kids school after he and his first wife divorced. Her kids went to that school.
    They married the same month her youngest graduated high school. He is good to her and her kids. He is polite and helpful with everyone in the neighborhood and the club.
    He voted for President Trump. He sometimes says good things about him and blames Democrats for whatever isn't done as he hoped.
    Most change the subject when politics are mentioned. Only his lifelong friend argues with him. Listening to this is unpleasant, but after a time they change the topic to sports.
    I like him for what he does, so can ignore stuff he says.
    I hear you, Herring, and I am glad you are able to separate the friend you care about from some of his beliefs. I struggle with that. I have a hard time reconciling someone I care about with her rabid support of Trump. I don't understand how a supposed good person can be on board with a horrible person like Trump. She says she is not a racist or bigot, but she supports someone who is. Isn't that the same thing?
  5. by   Lil Nel
    And now the beleaguered US ambassador to the Netherlands had to fess up to his lies and apologize! The apology only comes after he first shouted: Fake News when confronted with the truth.

    Why do all these Republicans appear to have memory disorders? Jeff Sessions can't remember meetings that he had with Russians, Donnie Dotard can't remember what he said and didn't say.

    They all need Namenda. While not a cure, it does slow the progression of dementia.

    After drubbing by Dutch press, U.S. Ambassador Pete Hoekstra apologizes for anti-Muslim remark: “I am shocked I said that.” - The Washington Post
  6. by   Lil Nel
    This is from the NY Times, but is based on a report from the Wall Street Journal, a nice conservative newspaper.

    If this woman was indeed paid $130,000, she was grossly underpaid in my opinion. The YUK factor is just so high.


    Porn Star Was Reportedly Paid to Stay Quiet About Trump - The New York Times
  7. by   toomuchbaloney
    Quote from Lil Nel
    This is from the NY Times, but is based on a report from the Wall Street Journal, a nice conservative newspaper.

    If this woman was indeed paid $130,000, she was grossly underpaid in my opinion. The YUK factor is just so high.


    Porn Star Was Reportedly Paid to Stay Quiet About Trump - The New York Times
    Yet, millions of Americans support the #sh!tholepresident for much much less.
  8. by   Lil Nel
    Now, this put a smile on my face!
    http://www.nydailynews.com/news/poli...icle-1.3755025
  9. by   SC_RNDude
    Quote from BCgradnurse
    I hear you, Herring, and I am glad you are able to separate the friend you care about from some of his beliefs. I struggle with that. I have a hard time reconciling someone I care about with her rabid support of Trump. I don't understand how a supposed good person can be on board with a horrible person like Trump. She says she is not a racist or bigot, but she supports someone who is. Isn't that the same thing?
    IMHO, Obama hates American ideals and values, and has displayed his own racist behaviors. That doesn't mean I think every Obama supporter also hates America and is a racist.

    And, I'm curious as to when Trump became all those horrible things? He seemed to be pretty well-liked in celebrity circles and in New York until he ran for President.
  10. by   BCgradnurse
    Quote from SC_RNDude
    IMHO, Obama hates American ideals and values, and has displayed his own racist behaviors. That doesn't mean I think every Obama supporter also hates America and is a racist.

    And, I'm curious as to when Trump became all those horrible things? He seemed to be pretty well-liked in celebrity circles and in New York until he ran for President.
    Can you give me some examples of why you think Obama is anti-American and racist? Trump has given us plenty, including calling KKK and white supremacists "very fine people", calling countries where brown and black people live *********"". He has also repeatedly lied to Americans, especially his uneducated base who are not astute enough to see him for what he is. Where are those coal jobs he promised? How's that Carrier plant doing? How about that tax plan that's going to hurt those that need the help the most, while bragging to his cronies that he just made them all richer? That's all pretty unAmerican to me.

    I disagree that Trump was well liked. Maybe by some other rich celebrities and some people he does business with. Maybe the porn star he allegedly paid off liked him when she got that check. He is also known for not paying contractors, and was known in NY as "the short fingered vulgarian". He is more suited to be president of the WWE, and not the United States.
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  11. by   Lil Nel
    I agree Dude that Trump was well-liked in certain celebrity circles. But what does that matter?

    Personally, I never liked him. I never thought he was cute, funny or entertaining. I have never watched his TV show, nor have I read his book. I never looked upon him or his family in awe? Why would I?

    But I disagree he was well-liked in NYC. It seems as though folks living in NYC have known the truth about him for awhile, and now that he occupies the WH, they are more vocal and forth-coming regarding their true feelings for him.

    Until he occupied the WH, he was only a local problem for New Yorkers.
  12. by   SC_RNDude
    Quote from BCgradnurse
    Can you give me some examples of why you think Obama is anti-American and racist? Trump has given us plenty, including calling KKK and white supremacists "very fine people", calling countries where brown and black people live "sh!tholes". He has also repeatedly lied to Americans, especially his uneducated base who are not astute enough to see him for what he is. Where are those coal jobs he promised? How's that Carrier plant doing? How about that tax plan that's going to hurt those that need the help the most, while bragging to his cronies that he just made them all richer? That's all pretty unAmerican to me.

    I disagree that Trump was well liked. Maybe by some other rich celebrities and some people he does business with. Maybe the porn star he allegedly paid off liked him when she got that check. He is also known for not paying contractors, and was known in NY as "the short fingered vulgarian". He is more suited to be president of the WWE, and not the United States.
    The point of my post was that you can't take the worst of what you perceive as character flaws of one politician, and say that everyone who thinks that politician is doing a good job has those same shortcomings. I don't know that Trump is or isn't a racist, but if he is and he says the sky is blue, is it not blue because he is a racist? If I agree with him, does that make me a racist too?

    As I mentioned, most of your comment has nothing to do with my point. But, for fun I'll indulge.

    For Obama, I could find many examples, but I'll just leave it with his relationship with Jeremiah Wright.

    Trump's comments about Haiti and other countries, although he expressed them (if he did) in a more vulgar term then I would like, are not untrue. They are bad places. isn't that why liberals say those people should be allowed here, and why we shouldn't send them back? You don't think liberals and the liberal media haven't said similar things about those places. Or recently, about our own state of Alabama?

    And, there is some dispute if he actually said that, and/or in the context it is being portrayed. From Jake Tapper: Twitter

    And, why was this conversation leaked in the first place? What was the point, except for political motives. I also find it suspicious that the most vocal person about this conversation is Dick Durbin, one of the sleaziest scumbags in a town full of them.

    Trump did save some of the Carrier jobs. Are we aiming for zero job loss while he is President? That seems unrealistic. Overall, the economy is doing great. Remember, the stock market and economy was supposed to crash by now.

    It seems to me Trump was pretty well-liked. You used the term celebrity. One doesn't remain a celebrity for decades without being well-liked by throngs of people. Do a google search on Trump, pre 2006ish, and the most negative thing you'll find is about his feud with Rosie Odonnell.

    When you say other rich celebrities, do you mean liberal celebrity hypocrites? How about weddings? Guests included Elton John, Katie Couric, Charlie Rangel, Billy Joel, Star Jones, Matt Lauer, Barbara Walters, the Clintons, Rosie Odonnell, and it goes on. He was on Saturday Night Live several times, including one funny bit that has "disappeared". Yahoo - 400 Bad Request

    How about the pictures of him hanging out with Al Sharpton, Jesse Jackson, etc? It seems they enjoy being in Trump's company.

    Having followed Trump for many years, it seems to me that he was a pretty likable guy until he started criticizing Obama.
  13. by   Lil Nel
    While I certainly can't speak to why some celebrities form friendships or working relationships with others, I do suspect that "true" friendship isn't necessarily the basis of these relationships. Perhaps it has more to do with common goals, common enemies or a combination of the two. Who knows?

    Yes, Haiti and several countries disparaged by Trump aren't the nicest of places. Neither is eastern Kentucky. There are several counties there that currently lack access to water used in ADLs. Nice, huh?

    But let us not forget the role the United States has played in making some of these places not so nice.

    The US first invaded Haiti in 1915, and didn't leave until the 1930s.

    The US government supported and propped up dictators such as Papa Doc Duvalier and his son Baby Doc, who stole much monies from Haiti. In 2004, the US airlifted the President of Haiti out of the country as he was accused of corruption as well, and US troop once again went into Haiti. A UN peace keeping force was brought in, and as we all know, those peace keepers brought cholera with them, and it remains today.

    Of course in Central America, the US government for years propped up right-wing juntas that regularly killed nuns, priest and everyday folks that the junta deemed a threat. Remember the premise of Irancontragate?

    I believe if we helped to break it, then we are responsible to help rebuild and offer assistance in the form of immigration. It is the least that the US owes to these people.

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