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  1. by   Lil Nel
    Congress is in recess, and I read in Washington Post and NY Daily News about two different Republicans addressing constitutes at Town Halls. One said health care isn't an inalienable right, and the other said nobody in this country dies from a lack of health care.

    Both men were drowned out by boos.

    How out of touch are these people? Ah, the day of reckoning is coming folks. Republicans are going to need lots of help from their Russian friends if they hope to maintain control of Congress and the WH.

    Health care is going to be sword they fall on.
  2. by   toomuchbaloney
    It is telling that the GOP tried to get rid of ethics oversight of their activities before they moved on to exempting themselves from their own laws. Republicans seem to have lost their moral and ethical compasses.
  3. by   margin261
    Regarding congress exempting themselves- I read somewhere that they "had" to do that because of the way they're trying to go about getting the bill passed- through reconciliation? There are very strict rules about what can & can't be done that way. Supposedly if it affects congresses healthcare, then they can't push it through that way, hence the need for them to write an exemption for themselves. Oh, but don't worry, if the bill were to be made in to law, the exemption would be done away with, of course. (It was all very complicated & convoluted-so anyone who interpreted it it differently I am certainly open to correction)
    But if to push it through the way they're doing it doesn't allow changes to congresses healthcare, why would continuing to go through that process to completion, eg: making it law, allow them to at the end? I have a feeling this is another GOP lie.
    Besides, the point isn't that coverage is not going to be available, everyone is going to have ACCESS to awesome coverage! Like I have access to Lear jets & 40 room beach side mansions!! It's there for people-alllll people to have!!
    The folks in congress that just voted Yes for this atrocity can all afford the premiums & deductibles.
    The statements that have come out of these people's mouths are astounding to me. Either it has been outright lies- like from trump himself. Several voted yes & didn't even read it- Chris Collins. Or, like Mo Brooks who equates "living a good life" with having good health. How do these people get elected??
  4. by   elkpark
    Quote from margin261
    The statements that have come out of these people's mouths are astounding to me. Either it has been outright lies- like from trump himself. Several voted yes & didn't even read it- Chris Collins. Or, like Mo Brooks who equates "living a good life" with having good health. How do these people get elected??
    Not just Mo Brooks -- who was the guy who said no one dies because they don't have healthcare?? Here are a couple more gems:

    In a welcome display of candor, one House Republican suggested yesterday that if you have a pre-existing condition, and your state tries to punish you, you may have to move to some other state. TPM noted:

    "People can go to the state that they want to live in," Rep. Robert Pittenger (R-NC) told reporters Tuesday morning when asked if people with pre-existing conditions could be charged much more under the American Health Care Act. "States have all kinds of different policies and there are disparities among states for many things: driving restrictions, alcohol, whatever," he continued. "We're putting choices back in the hands of the states. That's what Jeffersonian democracy provides for."

    It's quite a pitch. You have a heart condition? I hope you're prepared to leave your job, sell your home, and move to some state that may offer the kind of protections that "Obamacare" already provides to the entire country. It's all about congressional Republicans and Donald Trump giving you "choices."

    ... And those comments came on the heels of a Huffington Post report on Rep. Warren Davidson (R-Ohio) who "told the mother of a service industry worker who has benefitted from the Affordable Care Act's Medicaid expansion that her son should get a better job if he wants decent insurance when Obamacare is repealed."

    The Ohio Republican said the young man who relies on Medicaid probably has the wrong "skills," so he shouldn't be "entitled" to coverage through the Medicaid program.


    GOP lawmaker: those with pre-existing conditions may need to move
  5. by   BCgradnurse
    Quote from elkpark
    Not just Mo Brooks -- who was the guy who said no one dies because they don't have healthcare?? Here are a couple more gems:

    In a welcome display of candor, one House Republican suggested yesterday that if you have a pre-existing condition, and your state tries to punish you, you may have to move to some other state. TPM noted:

    "People can go to the state that they want to live in," Rep. Robert Pittenger (R-NC) told reporters Tuesday morning when asked if people with pre-existing conditions could be charged much more under the American Health Care Act. "States have all kinds of different policies and there are disparities among states for many things: driving restrictions, alcohol, whatever," he continued. "We're putting choices back in the hands of the states. That's what Jeffersonian democracy provides for."

    It's quite a pitch. You have a heart condition? I hope you're prepared to leave your job, sell your home, and move to some state that may offer the kind of protections that "Obamacare" already provides to the entire country. It's all about congressional Republicans and Donald Trump giving you "choices."

    ... And those comments came on the heels of a Huffington Post report on Rep. Warren Davidson (R-Ohio) who "told the mother of a service industry worker who has benefitted from the Affordable Care Act's Medicaid expansion that her son should get a better job if he wants decent insurance when Obamacare is repealed."

    The Ohio Republican said the young man who relies on Medicaid probably has the wrong "skills," so he shouldn't be "entitled" to coverage through the Medicaid program.


    GOP lawmaker: those with pre-existing conditions may need to move
    What a bunch of smug, self-serving "fatherless children". Why is healthcare tied to employment, anyway? I have always been a supporter of single payer healthcare, and my support just grows stronger with every bit of nonsense these idiots mutter.
  6. by   ElvishDNP
    Quote from BCgradnurse
    What a bunch of smug, self-serving "fatherless children". Why is healthcare tied to employment, anyway? I have always been a supporter of single payer healthcare, and my support just grows stronger with every bit of nonsense these idiots mutter.
    I think Republicans' shenanigans - their absurdly out-of-touch statements - in combination with the atrocity that is TrumpCare is making the case for single payer far better than any of us ever could.
  7. by   Ted
    Quote from ElvishDNP
    I think Republicans' shenanigans - their absurdly out-of-touch statements - in combination with the atrocity that is TrumpCare is making the case for single payer far better than any of us ever could.
    I totally agree!!

    Also. . . Congrats, Ms ElvishDNP!
  8. by   Extra Pickles
    "Move to a different state" is the answer that Representatives think is a reasonable to the question "what happens if my now-repealed coverage isn't available where I live?"

    Unbelievable. Yes, it is all about "choices", this administration likes to say. Choices placed in the laps of the state governments because the federal one "chooses" to not deal with it. Choices regarding school enrollments that will leave many children undereducated, choices regarding healthcare that will leave many adults and children without healthcare.

    Would you like to be shot or hung? Some choice!

    There are slashes in funding to after-school programs that feed impoverished children. Nope, they don't really need to eat. No food for you! Senior citizens who needed federal food programs to survive? Nope, no food for YOU either!

    And I heard a news blurb about how Medicaid funding is going to be slashed to within an inch of its life, so all those who are going to need to either further depend on Medicaid for care because of the healthcare repeal or need to turn there for the first time are going to find the equivalent of a Closed for Business" sign on the door. Sorry, nope, no help for you!

    But hey I guess eating is a choice and so is taking care of one's health conditions. It's not like you HAVE to eat or HAVE to medicate to ease health problems, right? Oh, wait----.
  9. by   Avid reader
    Quote from toomuchbaloney
    It is telling that the GOP tried to get rid of ethics oversight of their activities before they moved on to exempting themselves from their own laws. Republicans seem to have lost their moral and ethical compasses.
    Assuming they had any in the first place! Peeps this isn't about choices or any other tomfoolery excuses they present. It's about lobbying dollars from whatever special interest groups can give them the most. Notice, healthcare (insurance companies), Dodd Frank (Wall Street), immigration (Private prison companies), every modification or new law will benefit special interest groups. Oil, insurance, defense contractors, banks, communications etc. They actually do not even care about re-election because post elections will be lobbying jobs, directorships or some other way to utilize the connections made and therefore fill their coffers.
    Last edit by Avid reader on May 8 : Reason: Spelling
  10. by   Lil Nel
    Jeffersonian democracy? Did Thomas Jefferson invent democracy? No, he didn't. He didn't even come up the branches of government that are presently used in the US. That was John Adams, and he borrowed heavily from the philosophers of the day.

    Typical out-of-touch Republican. I warned you all many posts ago that the Republican plan would result in 50 different health care options (no uniformity). The out-of-touch Republicans are equating driving, etc., with HEALTH CARE.

    Each time I hear them getting slammed at Town Halls, well, it warms my heart.

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