School shootings

  1. I read this on Twitter today:

    "The 31st school shooting of 2017 took place today. The 239th since Newtown.
    Name one thing we're doing to stop the slaughter of our kids."

    It saddens me that school shootings are common place, and that kids have to practice active shooter drills.

    And as I have stated several times, I don't want to take your ****** gun away. But for the love of god, do something to protect children.
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  2. 9 Comments

  3. by   Lil Nel
    Hold parents responsible for the actions of their children who use guns they get at home. It seems like a pretty simple solution to me.

    If your kid uses a gun that they accessed at home because it wasn't locked in a secure cabinet, or wherever responsible people keep guns, charge the parents for reckless endangerment or whatever else will stick.

    One the parent's butts are on line, things will change.

    I hope nobody was shocked by the latest shooting. These things are easy to predict when the country is awash in guns.
  4. by   toomuchbaloney
    Sometimes the dudes kill the parent(s) with the guns first. That's pretty severe punishment. The USA, simply speaking, does a good job of insuring that all (violent) men can have as many guns as they want. The madness has expanded to include women. The stories of women brandishing loaded weapons during altercations are on the rise.

    It's almost like we have collective mental illness in this country.
  5. by   Lil Nel
    Oh, I completely agree, Baloney. This country has a huge problem with mental illness, which manifests in mass shootings and drug abuse.

    But hey, let's weaken the already weak gun laws! That will help solve the problem.

    These shootings have lost their power to shock, or even to move me. I have long accepted the fact that the well-being of children matters less to many in this country, than their right to bear arms.
  6. by   toomuchbaloney
    Quote from Lil Nel
    Oh, I completely agree, Baloney. This country has a huge problem with mental illness, which manifests in mass shootings and drug abuse.

    But hey, let's weaken the already weak gun laws! That will help solve the problem.

    These shootings have lost their power to shock, or even to move me. I have long accepted the fact that the well-being of children matters less to many in this country, than their right to bear arms.
    The evidence to support your last statement is overwhelming.
  7. by   Lil Nel
    I just read that kid got the guns from home. Dad had them in a locked safe, and the shooter, who is 15-years-old, had the combination.

    Now, that's a smart thing to do, isn't it?

    Yep. Charge the parents in this case. Let it be the first of many that will hold irresponsible parents accountable for their actions.
  8. by   BCgradnurse
    I hate that no one is shocked anymore by these shooters. I'm sick of hearing that "guns don't kill people, people kill people". The laws are too lax, in my opinion. Have your guns, but register them, demonstrate competence with them, and close that stupid gun show loophole. Please get rid of open carry- that's just asking for trouble.

    I think the 2nd Amendment has been twisted into an unrecognizable form from its original intent.
  9. by   amoLucia
    Kind of tangential to mention here, but beyond the school shootings, there are also the accidental shootings that occur. It still saddens me that little brother finds an unlocked gun and plays with it. Then shoots his sibling or playfriend.

    I am hardened when next I see the family on TV grieving the loss. On one hand I want to offer my support, but then the other hand wants to smack them for carelessness (a few cases excepted).

    Enough.
  10. by   Lil Nel
    A few years ago, a five-year-old shot and killed their two-year-old sibling with a gun that was simply left out.

    Unfortunately, the cops refused to charge the parents, stating: They had suffered enough. No. they needed to be charged. Does a responsible parent leave a loaded gun in a place where a five-year-old has access to it? No.

    If we charge parents for leaving children in hot cars, why not when they give their kids access to loaded guns.

    I didn't feel bad for the parents in the above mentioned case. I felt bad for the sibling who killed their younger sibling. That would be hard to live with. But again, that is all on the parents. It was an accident that could have easily been avoided by using some common sense.
  11. by   chare
    Quote from Lil Nel
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    ...It was an accident that could have easily been avoided by using some common sense.
    I agree completely with everything you stated, except for this. This was no accident, and as you noted, simply securing the weapon would have prevented this tragedy.

    Calling something an accident implies that it occurred totally without any fault or blame. While we often use this wording to console those involved, that should stop. Call it what it is; an irresponible act, one that ended tragically.

    ETA: The LA Times reported 220 school shootings through 11 April.

    Since Sandy Hook, a gun has been fired on school grounds nearly once a week - Los Angeles Times
    Last edit by chare on Sep 16

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