Scandal politics sweep Capitol Hill - page 5

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… All together, roughly one-third of House committees are engaged in investigating some aspect of the Obama administration. “The speaker and other House leaders have been clear: Effective, responsible oversight is a key... Read More


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    Quote from StNeotser
    You know full well I was talking about conservative pundits and politicians.

    Fine, but for one, you have no idea what their motives are. Why is it that you assume their motives are false or dishonest, that they really don't care? Sure, part of it is probably political. I'm sure if the investigations have as a side-effect discrediting the current administration, they probably won't cry themselves to sleep. But I'm not so jaded yet to think that they really do not care about finding out WHY these people died, WHO is responsible, WHO was aware of what was going on, WHO gave orders, WHO lied to the public, etc.
    And if they didn't act, if they just swept this under the carpet like the administration has been trying to do, then the PEOPLE, those who DESERVE answers, well they would get nothing.
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    Quote from uRNmyway
    Fine, but for one, you have no idea what their motives are. Why is it that you assume their motives are false or dishonest, that they really don't care? Sure, part of it is probably political. I'm sure if the investigations have as a side-effect discrediting the current administration, they probably won't cry themselves to sleep. But I'm not so jaded yet to think that they really do not care about finding out WHY these people died, WHO is responsible, WHO was aware of what was going on, WHO gave orders, WHO lied to the public, etc.
    And if they didn't act, if they just swept this under the carpet like the administration has been trying to do, then the PEOPLE, those who DESERVE answers, well they would get nothing.
    As the past 24 hours have shown the leaked emails were modified by the GOP to suit their needs. This is not being reported by the right wing press, obviously.

    I am very jaded about the embassy issue. The GOP pushed for cuts and the ambassador declined extra help. The administration has swept nothing under the rug. I agree people deserve answers. They were given factual info by the administration. The GOP then created bogus new materials to support their continuation of screaming Benghazi whenever they are reminded that they have not voted on a jobs bill. They procrastinate by re-voting on ACA 37 times. They deal only with the sequester to get themselves out of DC on time and without crowds.

    I agree the people deserve the truth. Don't expect that from most news sources. It is obvious that many can be bought. I disagree about the fact that they really care. If they did they would get the toxic commentators off the air. People like Ann Coulter are just plain disgusting. They incite hate speak and then sit back and laugh when gays are killed after one of her rants.

    Never mistake Fox hues for Facts. Everything they put out is so colored to increase hate speak they cannot find truth. That is one of their motives, besides big bucks.
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    Quote from aknottedyarn
    As the past 24 hours have shown the leaked emails were modified by the GOP to suit their needs. This is not being reported by the right wing press, obviously.

    I am very jaded about the embassy issue. The GOP pushed for cuts and the ambassador declined extra help. The administration has swept nothing under the rug. I agree people deserve answers. They were given factual info by the administration. The GOP then created bogus new materials to support their continuation of screaming Benghazi whenever they are reminded that they have not voted on a jobs bill. They procrastinate by re-voting on ACA 37 times. They deal only with the sequester to get themselves out of DC on time and without crowds.

    I agree the people deserve the truth. Don't expect that from most news sources. It is obvious that many can be bought. I disagree about the fact that they really care. If they did they would get the toxic commentators off the air. People like Ann Coulter are just plain disgusting. They incite hate speak and then sit back and laugh when gays are killed after one of her rants.

    Never mistake Fox hues for Facts. Everything they put out is so colored to increase hate speak they cannot find truth. That is one of their motives, besides big bucks.

    I agree, Fox is not reliable source for unbiased news. But then again, neither is CNN, or MSNBC, or most other 'news' networks. The days of the unbiased, neutral reporters are LONG dead.
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    Do The White House Emails And Other Breaking Revelations Point To Critical CIA Secrets In Benghazi?

    With the release yesterday of the 100 pages of emails discussing the ‘talking points’ that have become the focus of Rep. Darrell Issa’s campaign to expose a White House cover up of the Benghazi affair, there are a few things that have now become starkly clear—
    • It was the CIA—not the State Department or the White House—that sought to remove language from the talking points directly discussing any potential involvement of any Al-Qaeda related terrorist groups in the Benghazi attack.
    • The White House very clearly did not seek to steer the talking points in the direction of pushing a particular story that would soften potential political problems the attack may have caused with respect to the 2012 presidential election.
    • The State Department was very concerned that the CIA was attempting to ‘shift’ the failure for providing adequate security to protect the outpost to the State Department. In response, State was actively resisting any inclusion in the talking points that would suggest such blame.

    You can read the emails here.
    While the email dump may have permanently put an end to any serious effort on the GOP leadership’s part to create a White House cover up where none appears to exist, the emails—taken in conjunction with some other highly relevant information reported yesterday—raise some serious questions as to what was really happening at the Benghazi outpost and why the true mission just might be something that the government is obliged to keep tightly classified.

    Citing two government officials who did not wish to be identified, McClatchy News Service is reporting that United States Ambassador Chris Stevens—who was killed in the Benghazi attack along with three other Americans—turned down two offers of additional security for the Benghazi facilities just weeks before the tragic occurrences of September 11, 2012. ...

    http://www.forbes.com/sites/rickunga...s-in-benghazi/
    White House Releases Complete Benghazi Emails -- http://www.npr.org/blogs/thetwo-way/...benghazi-email
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    Quote from uRNmyway
    I guess I just find it funny in a way. Instead of admitting that perhaps the POTUS is not some super-hero come to save the US, he is human. He makes mistakes. He is going to be criticized for these mistakes. Just like any other POTUS would, were he white, black, yellow, brown, pink, purple, blue, green, wtv.
    I mean, how often do you hear people say, 'I don't like Obama because he is black'?
    Now, how often do you hear people accusing others, saying, 'Oh, you only hate Obama because he is black!'.
    Think about it. If anyone throws around the race card, it's really mostly the left.
    I'm enjoying your posts uRNmyway.

    This states very well my earlier point about being weary of the argument that because I or other folks disagree with Obama's politics it must only be because he is black.

    Nothing could be further from the truth for the majority of folks who are not in favor of Obamacare, etc.
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    okay, so this is my take on the politics of this POTUS...
    he runs for office and is accused of...being foreign born, having Hussein as a suspicious (islamist) name, being a secret muslim, and hating America, among other things.
    He gets elected (twice) and is surrounded by "scandal" constantly while accused of building a secret army, plotting to turn the US into a communist haven, plotting to implement sharia law, a using deaths in Benghazi to somehow get elected, etc.
    Everything is announced as "worse than Watergate", whether or not there is even any evidence to support that comparison.

    I dunno, seems people have been gunning for this POTUS, on a large platform of "issues" for more than 8 years now. Every issue that is addressed is seen as a scandal and considered the worst ever.

    Something is clouding the judgment of good citizens all over this country...what is it?
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    I am not in favor of Obamacare because tax money will go to health insurance companies rather than pay for healthcare.
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    Quote from aknottedyarn

    Never mistake Fox hues for Facts. Everything they put out is so colored to increase hate speak they cannot find truth. That is one of their motives, besides big bucks.

    Another typo?

    I think we are going to find out that the GOP had nothing to do with altering what originally was sent out....IF and it's a big if, those haven't already been scrubbed and can't be found.
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    Quote from tewdles
    okay, so this is my take on the politics of this POTUS...
    he runs for office and is accused of...being foreign born, having Hussein as a suspicious (islamist) name, being a secret muslim, and hating America, among other things.
    He gets elected (twice) and is surrounded by "scandal" constantly while accused of building a secret army, plotting to turn the US into a communist haven, plotting to implement sharia law, a using deaths in Benghazi to somehow get elected, etc.
    Everything is announced as "worse than Watergate", whether or not there is even any evidence to support that comparison.

    I dunno, seems people have been gunning for this POTUS, on a large platform of "issues" for more than 8 years now. Every issue that is addressed is seen as a scandal and considered the worst ever.

    Something is clouding the judgment of good citizens all over this country...what is it?

    Well, I don't know, I think if there was any doubt with ANY person running for POTUS as to if they were born in the US (a must to be President, no?), it would be asked. And yes, when there is still a lot of negative sentiment in the US, and in most places really, against Muslims since 9/11, a Presidential candidate popping up with a name normally associated with Muslim people, yeah, I think that would cause some drama and more questions. And when this POTUS starts bashing characteristics that are pretty much known for being American values, I get how that would create problems too.
    I don't know about this secret army, I personally haven't heard any of those accusations. However, Obama does seem to have values most associate with Communism. Correct me if I'm wrong, with examples, if you don't mind. Then he sends financial support to a political party who does support Sharia Law. It's dumb to imply that he wants to implement it here in the US, people wouldn't stand for it. BUT, it's also real dumb to send money to a party that does when the one you are supposed to be running is suffering financially...well...I'm no leader, but seems like a bad idea.
    I don't think he used Benghazi to get re-elected. I think he IGNORED it to prevent not getting elected. He definitely tried to sweep it under the rug.
    Yes, the right does portray everything as worse than Watergate. While that is definitely exaggerated, trying to portray it all as small stuff is also naive and biased.

    And yes, I would agree that something is clouding judgment of citizens. I would just love for both sides to admit to this, finally. Because let's be honest, please. The left is JUST as biased when it comes to this POTUS, ignoring big issues, as the right is intent on making these same issues big scandals.
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