RNs protest Gov. Snyder's "Right to Work" corporate takeover - page 9

With their mouths taped shut, RNs protest Gov. Snyder's "Right to Work" corporate takeover Michigan Nurses Association protests on the Capitol steps in Lansing against Michigan Right To Work... Read More

  1. Visit  aknottedyarn} profile page
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    Quote from HM-8404
    Apparently you know little about the actual workings of a union and it's members. Union members see the company as the enemy, an enemy that is constantly trying to cheat them and negatively affect their livelihood. The members see any member that can screw over the company as a quasi hero. Unions don't police their own. That's a bunch of bologna.
    Sorry, I was shop steward for close to 10 years, president of our chapter, active in state and regional activities. I have walked picket lines and I have seen the destruction caused by the attitude you describe. It does not have to be that way.

    Unions are often characterized as you have. It takes dedicated workers to make sure the union does not become an us v them. When it does everyone loses. Negotiation skills are very important and people who cannot see a symbiotic relationship will never understand how it works.
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    Quote from aknottedyarn
    Sorry, I was shop steward for close to 10 years, president of our chapter, active in state and regional activities. I have walked picket lines and I have seen the destruction caused by the attitude you describe. It does not have to be that way.

    Unions are often characterized as you have. It takes dedicated workers to make sure the union does not become an us v them. When it does everyone loses. Negotiation skills are very important and people who cannot see a symbiotic relationship will never understand how it works.
    I was a union steelworker for 18 years and UTU represented freight conductor for almost 5 years. What I described is exactly the way it was at US Steel and at Norfolk Southern Railroad. They looked for ways to get rid of the dead weight (chronically late for work, do a sloppy job, do just enough to look busy, etc) and the unions would spend thousands of dollars representing those poor misunderstood souls. If you are paid to do a job, just freaking do it. That is all most companies want from their employees. Do the job they are paid to do.
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    Unions are not the same. Here is what some unions are doing -- http://nurses.3cdn.net/a70aeebe6eccdff4bb_1rm6vtx0w.pdf
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    Union Membership Decline Boosts Corporate Profit At Workers' Expense

    Corporate profit has been soaring for years at workers' expense and a decline in union membership is to blame -- not a rise in technology, a new study found

    Union Membership Decline Boosts Corporate Profit At Workers' Expense | Portside
    The study: accordingto a study by Tali Kristal
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  6. Visit  tewdles} profile page
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    Here's the bottom line...imagine our world without unions, without any of the benefit that they have had, without any of the costs that they have had. Okay...done

    In order for me to want to live in THAT world I would also have to imagine that corporate people are generally moral, ethical, and altruistic as applied to their goals. Uh...still working on that one...

    Rick Snyder, I suspect, will go down in history as one of the most destructive governors in the history of Michigan.
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  7. Visit  PMFB-RN} profile page
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    Quote from heart2serve
    I live in a right to work state and work at a magnet hospital. You don't have to be in a union to deliver great patient care. Not a big fan of unions.
    *** I left a non-union Magnet (can there be a union Magnet hospital?) hospital with very unsafe staffing levels, crappy treatment of nurses by management, low pay and poor benefits (typical Magnet hospital) for a nice (voluntary) union, non Magnet hospital. I nearly doubled my pay, get treated with respect, and actually get to provide good care to my patients.
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    Quote from HM-8404
    Apparently you know little about the actual workings of a union and it's members. Union members see the company as the enemy, an enemy that is constantly trying to cheat them and negatively affect their livelihood. The members see any member that can screw over the company as a quasi hero. Unions don't police their own. That's a bunch of bologna.
    *** The union at my hospital doesn't sound ANYTHING like what you describe. They don't stop the hospital from firing the bad staff. It does prevent the firing of good nurses for no reason like the Magnet hospital I used to work at did. One day they fired every one of their clinical nurse specialists. Later in the year, without warning, fired all the nurses who worked the weekend program for trumped up reasons. Mainly cause those were the highest paid nurses in the hospital.
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