RNs protest Gov. Snyder's "Right to Work" corporate takeover - page 4

With their mouths taped shut, RNs protest Gov. Snyder's "Right to Work" corporate takeover Michigan Nurses Association protests on the Capitol steps in Lansing against Michigan Right To Work... Read More

  1. Visit  herring_RN profile page
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    Quote from tntrn
    I am waiting for anybody on the left, and the MSM to decry the violence and hatred that was on display yesterday in Michigan. The lack of it is in very sharp contrast to the President's message after the incident in Tuscon.
    Violence except in self defense or to save another person is never justified. No matter the goading it is wrong period.
    I saw on TV Mr. Crowder, a union member, hit in the face by another union member while a third union member tried to pull the man bac to prevent the fight.

    Don't hurt people!
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  2. Visit  VICEDRN profile page
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    Quote from 22gawhitacre
    If it's so miserable you can leave anytime. Perhaps they don't come back because of the constant complaining?
    Good news. After gaining almost three years of icu and ER experience and carefully watching the market on the west coast, my husband is at home packing boxes. We plan to be on the west coast by the beginning of march. Feel sad to rob the patients of yet more experienced nurses but mr icu and I need to live too. Can't wait!! 12 years on this backwater hellhole my ex dragged me to!
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  3. Visit  tntrn profile page
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    Quote from herring_RN
    I saw on TV Mr. Crowder, a union member, hit in the face by another union member while a third union member tried to pull the man bac to prevent the fight.
    He might be a union member, but not a member of that union. He is a reporter, and was trying to do his job.
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  4. Visit  Jolie profile page
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    Quote from tntrn
    He might be a union member, but not a member of that union. He is a reporter, and was trying to do his job.
    Double standards, selective outrage. Nothing new there.
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  5. Visit  herring_RN profile page
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    Quote from tntrn
    He might be a union member, but not a member of that union. He is a reporter, and was trying to do his job.
    Is there a point?
    I WAS CLEAR THAT REGARDLESS OF THE PROVOCATION IT IS NEVER OK TO HIT ANOTHER EXCEPT INSELF DEFENSE. PERIOD.
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  6. Visit  Jolie profile page
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    Quote from VICEDRN
    And did you think I didn't know what "right to work" meant?
    Yes. Based upon your previous statement that unions aren't allowed in Georgia, it appeared that you did not understand the meaning of "right to work."

    This web page seems to indicate that there are plenty of labor unions in Georgia.

    http://georgiaunions.org/
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    Quote from herring_RN
    Is there a point?
    I WAS CLEAR THAT REGARDLESS OF THE PROVOCATION IT IS NEVER OK TO HIT ANOTHER EXCEPT INSELF DEFENSE. PERIOD.
    You apparently believe Mr. Crowder provoked his own beating? Okay, then.
  8. Visit  herring_RN profile page
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    "I want to make something very clear here, Sean. I never went out here to try and be assaulted, as leftists might say. I went out here to prove the left for who they truly are. Certainly, these union thugs. And I’ve achieved that." --Steven Crowder


  9. Visit  herring_RN profile page
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    Whether he tried to do as he said or not there is no reason to hit another person. Period.
    the man was wrong.
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  10. Visit  VICEDRN profile page
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    Quote from Jolie
    Yes. Based upon your previous statement that unions aren't allowed in Georgia, it appeared that you did not understand the meaning of "right to work."This web page seems to indicate that there are plenty of labor unions in Georgia.Georgia AFL-CIO
    No. There aren't a lot of unions here. If you work for a union here, you work for an out of state employer. For example, Lockheed employees. Another example is the va. We aren't 20% unions like Michigan!It is practically impossible to form a union here. At will employment means you can and will be fired for trying to organize and that means in any way shape or form! By the way, don't see a huge long list of unions when I follow your link!
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  11. Visit  crazy oldnurse profile page
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    i AM from this state and I am feeling violated. They have set our wages back so far, benefits are not what we could say are "allencompassing". Do you all understand what they are doing to us? Already nursing is JUST starting to get organized and it is over the sad plight of patient carING!A Lansing hospital went out on strike and they did not have remedial plans at managements level. The RNs etc who walked that picket line got money but I have been told that it's the same old same old. We are being told that the MA techs and LPN'sWILL BE THE ONES running everything. Then 1 lonely RN will run the whole show??? Look at that sad case of the nurse committing suicide over HIPPA issues. The general health care situation is full of people at a pecking order. the power of the ones who went to school to be better prepared than the Philipno Nurses who all have BSN or better.I feel like I am on a chess board and someone sacrificed their Queen. Well all you prospective patients out there I pray for you. God Bless Us all.
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    Michigan locals raise funds for 'hot dog guy' after union protesters destroy his suppliesRead more: Michigan locals raise funds for 'hot dog guy' after union protesters destroy his supplies | Fox News

    Clinton Tarver has been serving hot dogs to hungry locals in downtown Lansing, Mich., for the last five years, but a brush this week with a pro-union protest literally upended his small business in a matter of minutes.
    During a protest against right-to-work legislation in Michigan's capital, Tarver’s catering supplies were destroyed when demonstrators tore down the tent where he was serving and trampled his gear....
    He described the action that ensued as “violent.” Only minutes after he’d handed the two men their hot dogs, the pair tore down the tent, turned over his serving tables, smashed his hot dogs, tossed a cooler filled with sodas and spilled his chili.
    “I kept explaining that I was just here to do a job, that I wasn’t on anybody’s side, but when people started calling me racial slurs, my friend who works at the Capitol told me I had to get out of there, so I crawled out,” said Tarver, who is black.


    Read more: Michigan locals raise funds for 'hot dog guy' after union protesters destroy his supplies | Fox News
  13. Visit  VICEDRN profile page
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    Are you posting this because you think this completely discredits the entire unionization effort by nurses? I have read some of your posts on other threads. If I didn't know better, I would think you are very young person. You have some very black and white thought processes, much like a young person. I understand the dark seduction of the simple answers the conservative side of most questions. Its really easy to say "If people would just accept personal responsibility, well, everything will just work out better."

    The truth is grownups know that problems are not that simple and for every one thing or person that bears responsibility, there is another. Unions ultimately protect nurses and their patients but yes, it costs money to join them. Some of the union processes do not benefit everyone the same. (For example, seniority is a one dimensional way to look at a nurse and it makes no sense.) On the other hand, without protections, we see constant turnover of staff at the bedside which helps no one and further and further investment into education that is costly and erodes a family's ability to advance (whereas 50 years ago, your employer trained you for a job in exchange for work and that includes nurses.)

    Walmart uses competitive business practices that are legal in Arkansas only to push out local competitors and then drives up prices. Their employees are underpaid and have little to no insurance coverage and thus end up in our emergency rooms. We see more and more working poor. The image of the lazy welfare queen is a myth.

    Hot dog guy probably didn't just innocently stand there and most of the protesters probably did not approve of the criminal destruction of property. I think most of us can see a much complex picture in our head than all of that.

    In fact, most of the time, its just not that simple.

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