Republican Senate Kills Military Veteran Job billRegister Today!
- by aknottedyarn Guide Sep 20, '12http://www.washingtonpost.com/politi...738_story.html
“No veteran who fought for our nation should have to fight for a job at home, but Republicans in Washington are blocking a common sense plan to create the Veterans Jobs Corps and put tens of thousands of veterans back to work,” the White House said in a statement.
“It’s both shocking and shameful that Republicans today chose to kill a bill to put America’s veterans back to work,” said Sen. Patty Murray (D-Wash.), chairman of the Senate Veterans Affairs Committee and a bill co-sponsor. “At a time when one in four young veterans are unemployed, Republicans should have been able, for just this once, to put aside the politics of obstruction and to help these men and women provide for their families.”
Murray said budgetary set-asides would pay for the bill.
Five Republicans, including Scott Brown of Massachusetts, Lisa Murkowski of Alaska, Dean Heller of Nevada, and Olympia J. Snowe and Susan Collins of Maine, joined every Democrat in supporting the motion to waive the budgetary objections, but the tally was two votes short.
This bill would have assisted veterans and assisted us to maintain the National Parks lands in better condition. It would have provided for firemen and women, police and other needs by personnel who have already been trained to do these jobs in the military. It is sad that our veterans are considered just political fodder by the GOP in this election year.
This bill probably would have assisted those vets who are now part of the 47%. They might still need assistance but they would be doing meaningful work and getting paid. This is important for young people not to sit, unable to get jobs or be forced into job training for non-existent jobs, or jobs not suited to the vets skill set. Sometimes the ability to put politics ahead of our military and military vets scares me.Last edit by aknottedyarn on Sep 20, '12
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- Too bad. I wonder what happened to compassionate conservatism.
- Jobs bill = stimulus = spending = not conservative enough
- Sep 20, '12 by tntrnWas there anything added to the bill, as is the norm, which is the real reason why it was not supported?
- Quote from tntrnIt's the old conservative idea that cutting spending helps cut unemployment and they didn't like a spending program that included increasing the deficit and actually creates a new program which might violate policy.Was there anything added to the bill, as is the norm, which is the real reason why it was not supported?
"Republicans said the Veterans Job Corps bill violated the Budget Control Act by adding a new program that would increase the deficit."
"Sen. Tom Coburn of Oklahoma said the federal government already has six job-training programs for veterans and there is no way to know how well they are working. He argued that making progress on the country's debt was the best way to help veterans in the long-term."
More than likely as usual they can't be seen as supporting Obama's agenda in anyway, especially this close to the election. Republicans want an alternative plan that has "initiatives" to help them. With 25% unemployment it would be nice.
- Sep 20, '12 by tntrnHmmm. I have to agree that spending more money without seeing any good results from what is already being spent is folly. But that's just me.
- Quote from tntrnIf you know about something added to the bill please post it.Was there anything added to the bill, as is the norm, which is the real reason why it was not supported?
- ... The Senate shelved a veterans employment bill Wednesday after Republicans raised concerns the measure could add to the national deficit without offering real help for out-of-work veterans.
The bill fell two votes short during a procedural motion, with every Senate Democrat backing the bill along with five Republican senators and two Independents joining them. Democrats and veterans advocates had been lobbying for its passage, and called Republican opposition to the proposal shameful. ...
... Last week, Democratic leaders inserted several Republican-backed provisions into the legislation in an effort to generate widespread support for the measure, including rules requiring states to recognize military experience in their hiring processes, establishing national credentialing rules for veterans and expanding post-military job training programs. ...
Veterans job corps bill shelved after falling short in Senate vote - News - Stripes
- Quote from tntrnI'm not sure what job programs and spending you're talking about, but clearly with 25% unemployment they are a failure and this program is a jump start and just might help. But that's just me.Hmmm. I have to agree that spending more money without seeing any good results from what is already being spent is folly. But that's just me.
I'll reserve judgement until I hear about the alternative "incentives" the republican senator was talking about, but it involves cutting spending "which will help them in the long run". Probably best to just leave them responsible for themselves because clearly they are just part of that lazy group of people that are victims and are depedent on the government teat. Why should they be any different than any other unemployed and jobs bill that republicans have squashed.
It's really probably only a ploy by Democrats anyway. They new it would be rejected and now they can get on their high horse on the campaign trail and say "look them them!". They'll do anything to stay in power....oh wait, I thought they were trying to create a lower class on purpose to stay in power.......I'm confused.
- Sep 20, '12 by tewdlesApparently the very republicans who supported and co-sponsored the bill decided to withdraw their support for what reason?
Surely it wouldn't be a purely political decision that punishes our veterans in order to further a political agenda!