Representative denies committee member

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    http://www.msnbc.com/all-in/watch/re...h-183730243884

    More indication that there is a real attempt to silence democracy. The House has a rule that includes that fact that members can ask questions or provide a statement for 5 minutes. Apparently this is not the first time that Rep. Issa has over stepped his authority and denied equal access.

    What is he covering up that he cannot have another member of the committee speak? Is there a reason why the head of this committee is a jack booted thug?

    Cheers for Rep. Cummings for standing up for democracy and the people he serves.
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    I saw this yesterday and was struck by the arrogance displayed by Mr. Issa.

    Clearly he was annoyed that the witness was not going to step away from her use of the 5th amendment protections that she had used previously, but then to have what amounted to a public tantrum by not allowing the customary comments was childish and unacceptable. While tensions between Cummings and Issa have been growing, such behavior is generally not on public display as it was yesterday. The disrespect for Cummings and for Committee proceedings was glaring.

    In my view, Darryl Issa's committees have some explaining to do, anyway, as the handling of sensitive information and documents has long been in question. Most recently there was concern over information from the ACA, but the "leaks" of information is long term and brings into question (at least for those who would care to examine the issue) the ethics of the man and his investigations. Issa has all the appearances of a wealthy Congressman who believes that laws and regulations don't apply to him.

    This was an embarrassment, IMHO
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    I found Mr. Cummings' behavior to be the embarrassment. He didn't want to ask a question of Ms. Lerner - he wanted to make another statement criticizing the investigation. That wasn't the purpose of that meeting. To pontificate, again. True The Vote, one of the targeted organizations with a lawsuit pending against the IRS, recently filed an ethics charge against Cummings for his alleged harassment of the organization. The mock outrage towards Issa's supposed mistreatment of Cummings is NOT the whole story.

    The hearing was convened for one reason and that was to get Ms. Lerner to answer some questions because due to come confusing emails with Lerner's lawyer, was under the impression that she was going to testify. Which she refused to do by asserting her Fifth Amendment Right against self-incrimination. Again. The investigation into this issue is still going on - it is not complete. Even though it appears some people are "leaking" supposed information that there is . . .Nothing here folks. Walk away. Yeah, that would have flown if this had happened under a president of a different party whose IRS folks were "harassing" a bunch of liberal organizations.

    The investigation is not complete. Why not let it go forward and stop using time in front of the cameras to bellow about your own personal agenda. I totally hate it when either side uses their time for asking questions for doing this by the way. However in this case, the lady was refusing to answer questions, the court appearance was over, Cummings could have spoken to a reporter afterwards about his thoughts. No one, no one, kept him from his 1st Amendment Speech right.
    Last edit by Spidey's mom on Mar 6
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    A hearing is a time when a witness may be questioned. It is also acceptable to a member to make a 5 minute presentation. Too bad that Issa did not want to have Rep. Cummings point out the fallacy of the hearings. It is correct: There is nothing there. That refers to the re-appeance of this topic. It has already been investigated and found that the IRS did not target conservative groups. In fact other groups faced more scrutiny than the conservatives.

    The issue is the blatant refusal to allow the other side to have equal time. This is not the first time that Issa has over played his position. He remains a thug who tries to circumvent the democratic process..
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    The IRS and the Administration tries very hard to silence the right and their opinions in a variety of ways. And they are crying foul over this? Puh-leeze.
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    Quote from aknottedyarn
    A hearing is a time when a witness may be questioned. It is also acceptable to a member to make a 5 minute presentation. Too bad that Issa did not want to have Rep. Cummings point out the fallacy of the hearings. It is correct: There is nothing there. That refers to the re-appeance of this topic. It has already been investigated and found that the IRS did not target conservative groups. In fact other groups faced more scrutiny than the conservatives.

    The issue is the blatant refusal to allow the other side to have equal time. This is not the first time that Issa has over played his position. He remains a thug who tries to circumvent the democratic process..

    Completely disagree over the purpose of that particular hearing. SHE refused to answer questions. That was that then. Cummings pretended to have a question but wanted to rant and rave. Not a productive way to conduct a meeting.

    His free speech rights were not violated. He was not silenced. The meeting was over!
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    No, the meeting was over when Rep. Cummings began to speak. He had the right to 5 minutes. Issa over stepped his authority and boundaries by denying the opposition time, as required. The fact that she refused to answer did not end the committee meeting. While she was the focus of the meeting, the GOP was allowed their time. The Dem. were denied.

    Given Issa's demeanor then and other times when he has selectively leaked info that he wanted and ignored other infor that was part of the matter, I have no faith that he is capable of running this committee or anything greater than a toy train.
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    Quote from aknottedyarn
    It is correct: There is nothing there. That refers to the re-appeance of this topic. It has already been investigated and found that the IRS did not target conservative groups. ..
    That is bull. The IRS has admitted to doing it.
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    "Toy Train" I like it. And this administration's toy train is coming off the track all over the world.
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    Disagree. Per my reading this morning, comments by committee members were made prior to the witness coming into the chamber for questioning and Mr. Cummings had nothing to say at that time. The meeting was adjourned by Issa and then Cummings, at almost the same time as the gavel came down, started saying he had a QUESTION. Mr. Issa ended up letting him speak until he noticed that Mr. Cummings did not have a question but was going to give a speech. Mr. Issa was perfectly within the rules of order to say then that the meeting was truly over.


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