President Obama Wants Chuck Hagel to Run the Pentagon - page 2

"Chuck Hagel's leadership of our military would be historic," he said. "He'd be the first person of enlisted rank to serve as Secretary of Defense, one of the few secretaries who have been wounded in... Read More

  1. Visit  tewdles profile page
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    Quote from 22gawhitacre
    yawn.
    Thank you for that response...it reveals your agenda.
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  2. Visit  CrufflerJJ profile page
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    Quote from 22gawhitacre
    Wrong. It is the equivalent to a US army private. But hey never let your source Wikipedia get in the way of looking like an democrat mascot.
    The translation of "gefreiter" varies from source to source. That being said, the general derogatory term for Adolf is the "Little Corporal", not the "little private".

    Here are a few websites for your reading pleasure, detailing the rank of Adolf:

    Adolf Hitler
    "Hitler rose to the rank of corporal - not particularly good over a four year span and many believe that it was his lack of social skills and his inability to get people to follow his ideas, that cost him promotion."

    http://www.historyplace.com/worldwar2/riseofhitler/warone.htm
    "Corporal Hitler was a dispatch runner, taking messages back and forth from the command staff in the rear to the fighting units near the battlefield. "

    Did Hitler really only have ONE testicle? A historian sorts the extraordinary truth from the far-flung myths about the Fuhrer | Mail Online
    "Corporal Adolf Hitler (right) during World War I. "

    The Legends and Traditions of the Great War: Hitler's War Service
    "[COLOR=BLUE][COLOR=BLUE]For the record, here is a summary of the War Service of Lance Corporal Adolf Hitler:"

    First World War.com - Feature Articles - How a Right Can Make a Wrong
    "...and 29 year old Lance Corporal Adolf Hitler of Braunau, Austria."

    Trenches on the Web - Special: Rank Insignia of the German Army, 1914-1918
    "Gefreiter
    (Lance Corporal)"

    Adolf Hitler: Biography
    "Hitler proved an able, courageous soldier, receiving the Iron Cross (First Class) for bravery, but did not rise above the rank of Lance Corporal."

    Adolf Hitler wounded in British gas attack " History.com This Day in History " 10/14/1918
    "Among the German wounded in the Ypres Salient in Belgium on October 14, 1918, is Corporal Adolf Hitler, temporarily blinded by a British gas shell and evacuated to a German military hospital at Pasewalk, in Pomerania."

    and...not to ignore Wiki:
    Military career of Adolf Hitler - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
    "The military career of Adolf Hitler can be divided into two distinct portions of Adolf Hitler's life. Mainly, the period during World War I when Hitler served as a Gefreiter (Lance Corporal) in the Bavarian Army, and the era of World War II when Hitler served as the Commander-in-Chief of the Wehrmacht through his position as Fhrer of Nazi Germany."

    Have a great day!
  3. Visit  msn10 profile page
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    Hitler was a private.
    For the sake of a meaningful conversation, please stop. I'm invoking Godwin's law.
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  4. Visit  herring_RN profile page
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    Jewish Voice for Peace supporters send over 10,000 emails to President Obama supporting nomination of Chuck Hagel
    Submitted by Sydney Levy on Mon, 01/07/2013 - 9:21am

    Response shows American Jews are divided over Secretary of Defense nomination

    ... In their emails to President Obama, JVP supporters point out that "what is important regarding Senator Hagel's potential appointment is that the decision be made based on his abilities, qualifications and suitability for the job...But too often in Washington when it comes to issues of concern to Israel,that is not the case."

    "The American Jewish community is split on Chuck Hagel's nomination," said Rebecca Vilkomerson, Executive Director of Jewish Voice for Peace. "While large Jewish institutions are imposing a litmus test on the nomination which requires unquestioning alignment with Israel's right-wing government, JVP's members have shown that a substantial portion of the Jewish community welcome daylight between U.S. and Israeli policies." ...

    http://jewishvoiceforpeace.org/blog/...-to-presiden-1
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  5. Visit  GHGoonette profile page
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    I'm not American, but I really need to butt in and ask this question; this is a political appointment, right? The guy is a politician? Aren't all politicians privates?

    Ok, bad joke.
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  6. Visit  22gawhitacre profile page
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    Gefreiter - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia Gefreiter (abbr. Gefr.) is the German, Swiss and Austrian equivalent for the military rank Private (NATO Rank Code OR-2). Gefreiter was the second rank to which an enlisted soldier could be promoted. As a military rank it has existed since at least the 16th century. From the 1920s on Gefreiter has expanded into several additional ranks, those being Obergefreiter, Hauptgefreiter, Stabsgefreiter and Oberstabsgefreiter (NATO Rank Code OR-3 and OR-4). Adolf Hitler held the rank of Gefreiter during his service in World War I.
    Quote from CrufflerJJ
    The translation of "gefreiter" varies from source to source. That being said, the general derogatory term for Adolf is the "Little Corporal", not the "little private".
    Trenches on the Web - Special: Rank Insignia of the German Army, 1914-1918
    "Gefreiter
    (Lance Corporal)"
  7. Visit  22gawhitacre profile page
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    like Obama, Hitler also brought about hope and change. Like Obama he also hated the rich (Jews).
    Quote from msn10
    For the sake of a meaningful conversation, please stop. I'm invoking Godwin's law.
  8. Visit  tewdles profile page
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    Wow...are you comparing Obama to Hitler for a particular purpose, or just to be inflammatory?
  9. Visit  Jolie profile page
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    tewdles,

    I'm not attempting to speak for another poster, just posting my own impressions. I have read this thread from the perspective of one who was impressed by the history lesson that Hitler was once beloved by his people and viewed almost as a savior. I don't view these posts as inflammatory, but rather as accurate. Make comparisons or dismiss them as you wish. That's the beauty of this forum.

    Growing up, I was very close to 2 adults who were raised in pre-WWII Germany. They both vividly described Hitler's rise to prominence and authority as a beloved figure. The gentleman was able to objectively describe the effects of his rule. The woman went to her grave believing that he was a saint, demonized by those who distorted history to further their own agendas.

    That which we ignore, we are doomed to repeat. Does that apply here in modern day America? I don't know, but I don't fault people for questioning.
  10. Visit  tewdles profile page
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    Colin Powell has said that he believes that Hagel will be a good as the head of the pentagon.

    He also said that the republican party needs to make some changes...

    I so wish that he would decide to run for a high political office!
  11. Visit  tewdles profile page
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    Pretty much the use of Hitler in comparisons to democrats has lost it's teeth it has been forwarded so often. The comparisons now are mostly an attempt to raise the temperature of the discussion, IMHO.
  12. Visit  22gawhitacre profile page
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    You are spot on with that assessment. If people on here are constantly looking to be offended they will find it no matter what you write.
    Quote from Jolie
    tewdles,

    I'm not attempting to speak for another poster, just posting my own impressions. I have read this thread from the perspective of one who was impressed by the history lesson that Hitler was once beloved by his people and viewed almost as a savior. I don't view these posts as inflammatory, but rather as accurate. Make comparisons or dismiss them as you wish. That's the beauty of this forum.

    Growing up, I was very close to 2 adults who were raised in pre-WWII Germany. They both vividly described Hitler's rise to prominence and authority as a beloved figure. The gentleman was able to objectively describe the effects of his rule. The woman went to her grave believing that he was a saint, demonized by those who distorted history to further their own agendas.

    That which we ignore, we are doomed to repeat. Does that apply here in modern day America? I don't know, but I don't fault people for questioning.
  13. Visit  tewdles profile page
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    And people can continue to post things that are widely seen as divisive and offensive and leave it to the readers to exercise self control so.

    Okay...I can certainly control myself

    Comparing people to Hitler will be offensive no matter what your rationale.


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