President-elect Trump

  1. CHA stands ready to work with President-elect Trump
    Statement by Sister Carol Keehan, DC, President & CEO, Catholic Health Association
    The Catholic Health Association of the United States extends its congratulations to president-elect Donald Trump. As citizens and people of faith, we have a responsibility to work together to make his term a success for the country we love so much. We also have a responsibility to pray for him and his administration...
    CHA stands ready to work with President-elect Trump
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  2. 191 Comments

  3. by   heron
    Good for them ... my money's still going to Planned Parenthood.

    Maybe the traditional Christian value of care for the poor and the sick will outweigh their fear of reproductive choice.
  4. by   herring_RN
    Donald Trump, pragmatist? President-elect's stances seem to shift after win
    … In the days since his victory in the electoral college, the president-elect has suggested that he could retain some elements of Barack Obama’s healthcare reforms, and his advisers appeared to tone down a pledge to “rip up” the Iran nuclear deal.
    As for Hillary Clinton, whom Trump had threatened to jail for unspecified crimes of corruption, he called her “very strong and very smart”.
    Obamacare, Iran deal and other promises appear to come in for adjustment as Trump dives into ‘swamp’ he vowed to drain with transition team appointments…
    … Trump subsequently promised, in an interview with the Wall Street Journal, to consider retaining aspects of Obama’s signature Affordable Care Act “out of respect” to the outgoing president…
    Donald Trump, pragmatist? President-elect's stances seem to shift after win | US news | The Guardian
  5. by   elkpark
    Quote from herring_RN
    Donald Trump, pragmatist? President-elect's stances seem to shift after win
    … In the days since his victory in the electoral college, the president-elect has suggested that he could retain some elements of Barack Obama’s healthcare reforms, and his advisers appeared to tone down a pledge to “rip up” the Iran nuclear deal.
    As for Hillary Clinton, whom Trump had threatened to jail for unspecified crimes of corruption, he called her “very strong and very smart”.
    Obamacare, Iran deal and other promises appear to come in for adjustment as Trump dives into ‘swamp’ he vowed to drain with transition team appointments…
    … Trump subsequently promised, in an interview with the Wall Street Journal, to consider retaining aspects of Obama’s signature Affordable Care Act “out of respect” to the outgoing president…
    Donald Trump, pragmatist? President-elect's stances seem to shift after win | US news | The Guardian
    Actually, technically, he hasn't yet achieved "victory in the electoral college." He is presumed to be victorious because of the general outcome of the election. But the Electors don't actually vote until December 19.

    There's a change.org petition calling on the Electors to honor the will of the people as expressed in the popular vote and vote for Clinton, that's been signed by millions of people.
  6. by   Tweety
    We were discussing the "alt right" earlier. Here's an interesting opinion piece.

    spent much of this fall listening, both online and in person, to the connoisseurs of ugliness who call themselves the alt-right. This is such a new category that no two people agree on precisely what it means or how many people fall within it. Some on the alt-right are committed white nationalists; others are committed neo-monarchists who refer to Donald Trump, buoyantly, as their “god-emperor”; others are chaos agents who are committed to nothing at all. One could argue that, together, these people’s social-media activism made it possible—made it conceivable—for Trump to be elected. On Wednesday, Charles Johnson, an alt-right troll who calls himself a journalist, was sitting on a Brooklyn-bound F train wearing a Make America Great Again hat. “You support a man who is racist, sexist, and homophobic,” a man standing next to him said, accurately. “We won—f#$% off,” Johnson said, also accurately.
    The Alt-Right Hails Its Victorious God-Emperor - The New Yorker
  7. by   SC_RNDude
    Quote from elkpark
    Actually, technically, he hasn't yet achieved "victory in the electoral college." He is presumed to be victorious because of the general outcome of the election. But the Electors don't actually vote until December 19.

    There's a change.org petition calling on the Electors to honor the will of the people as expressed in the popular vote and vote for Clinton, that's been signed by millions of people.
    Lol...a petition that sounds like it was written by a 8th grader signed by a measly couple of million people (how many signed multiple times) isn't going to override a national election. Not surprising you think it should.

    How ironic Trump got so much criticism for not committing himself ahead of time to accepting the election results.

    The "will of the people"? Hardly. If the rules of the game had been different, the campaigns would have acted differently. Seeing how Clinton lost big states she should have won, it stands to reason Trump would have won the popular vote if that is what was needed. If you take out California, Trump won the popular vote handily. I'm sure he could have picked up a few hundred thousand votes there alone if any effort was made.

    I'm going to start a petition to declare 1997 Cleveland Indians the World Champs. Even though the lost the World Series that year 4 games to 3, they actually scored more runs. Obviously, they are the real winners.

    Clinton sucked as a candidate. She is seriously flawed and came with a lot of baggage. The Democratic playbook of demonizing the opponent came back to bite them. Her campaign strategy sucked, and she lost an election to against what was supposed to be the worst candidate in history.

    Now, the losers are upset and want to change the rules. Not just that Clinton lost, but they are upset at who the winner is. Maybe in the future they shouldn't spend so much time demonizing every other republican candidate before a nominee is chosen. They helped tear down Cruz, Carson, Bush, and others and were pretty confident when Trump was the one who came through it all. Now, they're upset that it blew up in their face.

    Wah wah. Now wonder Trump got elected. People are sick of liberals.
  8. by   MunoRN
    Quote from SC_RNDude
    Lol...a petition that sounds like it was written by a 8th grader signed by a measly couple of million people (how many signed multiple times) isn't going to override a national election. Not surprising you think it should.

    How ironic Trump got so much criticism for not committing himself ahead of time to accepting the election results.

    The "will of the people"? Hardly. If the rules of the game had been different, the campaigns would have acted differently. Seeing how Clinton lost big states she should have won, it stands to reason Trump would have won the popular vote if that is what was needed. If you take out California, Trump won the popular vote handily. I'm sure he could have picked up a few hundred thousand votes there alone if any effort was made.

    I'm going to start a petition to declare 1997 Cleveland Indians the World Champs. Even though the lost the World Series that year 4 games to 3, they actually scored more runs. Obviously, they are the real winners.

    Clinton sucked as a candidate. She is seriously flawed and came with a lot of baggage. The Democratic playbook of demonizing the opponent came back to bite them. Her campaign strategy sucked, and she lost an election to against what was supposed to be the worst candidate in history.

    Now, the losers are upset and want to change the rules. Not just that Clinton lost, but they are upset at who the winner is. Maybe in the future they shouldn't spend so much time demonizing every other republican candidate before a nominee is chosen. They helped tear down Cruz, Carson, Bush, and others and were pretty confident when Trump was the one who came through it all. Now, they're upset that it blew up in their face.

    Wah wah. Now wonder Trump got elected. People are sick of liberals.
    The ability of electoral college electors to vote for someone other than who the people of that state voted for isn't actually against the rules, at least federally, which is one of the big criticisms of the electoral college, a criticism you seem to agree with .

    The electoral college doesn't just mean that states vote as a block, it also means we're only making a recommendation to the electors who actually pick our president in December. There is no requirement at the federal level that these electors abide by the recommendation of the voters of the state. 25 states have varying requirements that the electors abide by the voters of the state, although it's often just a relatively small fine for not doing so, the remaining 25 states have no requirements to vote for the winners in each state.
  9. by   elkpark
    Quote from SC_RNDude
    Lol...a petition that sounds like it was written by a 8th grader signed by a measly couple of million people (how many signed multiple times) isn't going to override a national election. Not surprising you think it should.
    I didn't say I thought the petition should succeed in changing the outcome of the election; just sharing that it is "out there."

    Again, I can only imagine the level of outrage and protest that would be happening if the situation were reversed and it were Trump who won the popular vote but lost in the Electoral College. I'm sure there would be real rioting in the streets, by heavily armed mobs. Your candidate was the individual who said repeatedly prior to the election that the system is rigged and he would not recognize the legitimacy of the elections results (unless he won, of course ).
  10. by   toomuchbaloney
    People are sick of liberals?
    Before I laugh out loud I just wanted to clarify what people you were referring to, SC_RN
  11. by   Tweety
    Oh yes, there are a lot of people sick of liberals. They are showing a lack of understanding of liberal feelings and seem to be annoyed with the idea that liberals aren't buying into the idea "we won, get over it". There is the idea that liberals are out to break our already weak democracy, a crazy idea I've actually heard.

    I'll do my own tit for tat because I'm sure it's coming: liberals don't understand the mindset of people that voted for Trump either. I also think conservatives critical of the protestors as I've pointed out forget their immediate hatred of Obama and the formation of the Tea Party. tit for tat: It's a bit worse with liberals today protesting louder and with more violence, but is it any wonder as this was the nastiest election in my lifetime.

    Meanwhile, Trump's campaign manager issues a veiled threat to Reid and other outspoken liberals.

    I find Harry Reid’s public comments and insults about Donald Trump and other Republicans to be beyond the pale. They’re incredibly disappointing. […] And he should be very careful about characterizing somebody in a legal sense. He thinks he’s just being some kind of political pundit there, but I would say be very careful about the way you characterize it.
    Conway Says Reid Should Be ‘Very Careful’ Criticizing Trump
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  13. by   Elvish
    I refuse to normalize his election. Do I accept that the presumptive results point to a Trump win? Yes. Do I promise to unite behind him? Absolutely not. For the same reason I would not tell a woman to go back to her abuser.
  14. by   herring_RN
    Donald Trump names Reince Priebus, Stephan Bannon to senior White House roles
    WASHINGTON — President-elect Donald Trump is making an overture to warring Republican circles by appointing GOP chief Reince Priebus as his White House chief of staff and Breitbart News executive Stephen Bannon as chief strategist and senior counsellor.
    The two men had made up the president-elect’s chief of staff shortlist, and while Priebus received that job, Bannon’s post is expected to wield significant clout.
    Trump gave top billing to the former media executive, who led a website that appealed to the so-called “alt-right” — a movement often associated with efforts on the far right to preserve “white identity,” oppose multiculturalism and defend “Western values.”...
    Donald Trump names Reince Priebus, Stephan Bannon to senior White House roles |

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