Opinion: Political Conservatism as It Currently Exists in the U.S. - page 2

I wrote the following mini-essay on Facebook in response to another member's political post. As you can see by this admittedly long "mini-essay", that particular post bothered me. In the past,... Read More

  1. by   FranEMTnurse
    Due to the way the Politicians especially on Capitol Hill have fought with one another in the past four decades, I have changed my voting status three times. when I first began voting, I voted Democrat because I liked John Kennedy. Then I changed to Republican voting for the individual in that party. Bsack and forth I went. When the Independent Party was created, I voted that way too. In fact, I vote according to the candidate's qualifications and political ideas. So far, I still want to help continue supporting the idea of "Making America Great Again.
  2. by   toomuchbaloney
    What does MAGA mean to you? What do you think used to be great that is no longer great in America?
  3. by   Lil Nel
    Even though I am no Trump supporter, I do believe there was a time when America was great, Sadly, it no longer is.

    America was great when it was struggling to acknowledge it's racist past, and took steps, under the Johnson administration to right, what had been wrong for so long. Of course, I am referring to the Voting Rights Act among other legislation during the Civil Rights era.

    America was great when it embraced SPENDING on the greater good. By that, I mean, when investing in public education was seen as proper thing to do, and building roads and bridges was seen as way to enhance living in the United States.

    America was great when it took in refugees, especially those it helped to create. Here, I am referring the Boat People of south Asia.

    America was great when it embraced the arts as being just as important to a society as math and science.

    Unfortunately, Trump has turned this country into a scared, angry, inward thinking, indifferent nation with no signs of greatness on the horizon.

    Yes, I support an attempt to MAGA, but it won't happen as long as the Bum is around.
  4. by   FranEMTnurse
    Quote from toomuchbaloney
    What does MAGA mean to you? What do you think used to be great that is no longer great in America?
    I grew up in the 50 & early 60s when people didn't have to place their possessions under lock & key, prices were so much cheaper, you could believe a person who made you a promise that it would be fulfilled, life wasn't filled with the stress that it is today, etc, etc. ans I don't know what MAGA means.
    Last edit by FranEMTnurse on Oct 14 : Reason: added MAGA
  5. by   elkpark
    Quote from FranEMTnurse
    I grew up in the 50 & early 60s when people didn't have to place their possessions under lock & key, prices were so much cheaper, you could believe a person who made you a promise that it would be fulfilled, life wasn't filled with the stress that it is today, etc, etc. ans I don't know what MAGA means.
    At the same time, there were many groups of Americans for whom life was not so great in the 1950s and '60s, however low prices were and whether or not you needed to lock your doors.
  6. by   Lil Nel
    I think that Fran is yearning for a simpler life, and that is something I yearn for too.

    Life is very stressful today, and maybe it always was, but that I was just too young realize it. I think that social media has contributed a lot to the stresses of everyday life.

    But MAGA and the simple life are two very different things.

    I try to simplify my life by not engaging in FB, Snapchat, etc. And I never lock my apartment door (except when I am sleeping, and that is something recent). I probably should as the drug problem is huge around here.

    It makes me very sad to live a country that once seemed on the fast track to greatness, sidelined by what I can only say is a certain type of mean-spiritedness that no way beckons this nation to greatness.
  7. by   toomuchbaloney
    I do think that many generations yearn for the simplicity or clarity of our younger lives. We romanticize the naiveté of our youthful perspectives.

    While we were certainly (as a country) building the greatest middle class economy in the world in the 50s and 60s, there were many adults who were not included and were not safe during the same time. A number of racist monuments and statues were erected in the 60s as equal rights activists were beaten or murdered.

    I completely understand the desire to re-experience that innocence and peace of my childhood. My faith teaches me that for everything there is a season and that my view of the world must mature. What I once saw dimly, I now see more clearly. This is an exhausting and discouraging time in my adulthood.
  8. by   margin261
    Before this election, I didn't give much thought to the ideology of republicans, democrats or much thought to politics in general. When I heard trump was running, I thought it was a joke- another stunt of his. After the primaries, it got more serious but I never really thought he would actually win.

    If there is any good that came from this- I am more educated about politics, policies, laws, legislation, etc. I am more involved & will never miss voting in any election again. I'm hoping it affected many people that way.

    Conservatives today. Roy Moore in AL-wants to make homosexuality illegal, didn't know what DACA was, had a gun on stage at a rally, Rohrabacher. JFC. A Russian stooge. There have been several GOP recently that have come out with straight up conspiracy theories that you would see on Infowars. And trump. That covers crazy. Then there are your everday republicans- Ryan, McConnell, Cassidy, Graham- that are greedy & cruel. Trying to take healthcare from millions, cut m'care/caid to pay for tax cuts for the wealthy so the Koch brothers will give them the $400mil as promised in exchange. Since very few stepped up to oppose (some did though!) I hold the majority of them in very low esteem. If that's being conservative- count me out. My heart & conscience wouldn't let me do that & sleep at night.
  9. by   Lil Nel
    To the many of you who already know how much I admire John and Abigail Adams, please just roll your eyes. For those who don't know, I think John Adams was among the best President's this country has ever had.

    I just got my own copy of his biography by David McCullough. I share the following from a letter he wrote to Abigail:

    "We live , my dear, in an age of trial. What will be the consequence, I know not."

    He wrote those words in 1774, and they are still true today.
  10. by   toomuchbaloney
    If police feel that they have targets on their backs it is largely be use they have allowed their peers to abuse their authority and power by abusing citizens without meaningful accountability. Police departments let their ranks be infiltrated and represented by white supremacy mentality and they subsequently lost public trust. They allow burnt out and bitter officers to carry weapons and to express their emotional instability in abuse of citizens. They stand silently by and watch peers lie, break laws, and obstruct justice and they DO and SAY NOTHING.
  11. by   BCgradnurse
    Quote from toomuchbaloney
    If police feel that they have targets on their backs it is largely be use they have allowed their peers to abuse their authority and power by abusing citizens without meaningful accountability. Police departments let their ranks be infiltrated and represented by white supremacy mentality and they subsequently lost public trust. They allow burnt out and bitter officers to carry weapons and to express their emotional instability in abuse of citizens. They stand silently by and watch peers lie, break laws, and obstruct justice and they DO and SAY NOTHING.
    And the victims are overwhelmingly Black males. This is why BLM formed and they need to be heard. And our current leadership needs to stop excusing the White Nationalist movement. They are not "some very fine people". As I said in my post that was removed, I'd rather hang with the BLM than #45 and his cronies.

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