Oh The Irony! - Anti Gun Paper Protected By Armed Guards

  1. So the paper that published the names and a map of firearms permit holders in an area of New York has now hired armed guards. Funny how the firearm seems like a good idea when THEY feel threatend.

    http://www.detroitnews.com/article/2...un-permit-info
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  2. 54 Comments

  3. by   Wile E Coyote
    Yeah, FUNNY how that happens, eh? Reminds me of the hypocrisy of the likes of Fienstein, O'Donnell, and Bloomberg.
  4. by   duskyjewel
    Cowardly hypocrites.
  5. by   brownbook
    I don't see the hypocrisy?

    Why can't people say...."I think we need to think about, talk about gun laws, gun control." They are not saying, "No one (but me or my armed guards) can own a gun". Legally registering and owning a gun is fine. Can't we just try to do something to prevent 20 first graders from being gunned down? Maybe something needs to be done?

    Or is everything just fine as it is?
  6. by   tewdles
    What was the journalistic point of printing the identity of lawful gun owners in the paper in the aftermath of a mass killing?
  7. by   kalevra
    Hahahahaha that's what happens when you breach someones privacy. Now you need armed guards to protect you from the people you were trying to exploit. The gunowners should start a website with the entire newspapers staff's addresses and information as well. See how those newspaper twits like their game.
  8. by   kalevra
    Quote from tewdles
    What was the journalistic point of printing the identity of lawful gun owners in the paper in the aftermath of a mass killing?
    Sensationalism. Increases exposure to the general public, more people see the newspaper the more exposed to the advertisers in the newspaper. Advertisement increases revenue for the newspaper.

    Those twits, deserve whats coming to them.
  9. by   herring_RN
    I think it was wrong to publish the names of all licensed gun owners.
  10. by   InfirmiereJolie
    This article is being used by those who want to block any improvement or progress of banning more dangerous semi-automatic assault weapons and gun reform by
    Appeal to Fear and Hasty Generalization.

    "Since Hasty Generalization is committed when the sample (the observed instances) is too small, it is important to have samples that are large enough when making a generalization.

    People often commit Hasty Generalizations because of bias or prejudice. For example, someone who is a sexist might conclude that all women are unfit to fly jet fighters because one woman crashed one. People also commonly commit Hasty Generalizations because of laziness or sloppiness. It is very easy to simply leap to a conclusion and much harder to gather an adequate sample and draw a justified conclusion. Thus, avoiding this fallacy requires minimizing the influence of bias and taking care to select a sample that is large enough. "
    http://www.nizkor.org/features/falla...alization.html

    "Appeal to fear

    An appeal to fear (also called argumentum ad metum or argumentum in terrorem) is a logical fallacy in which a person attempts to create support for his or her idea by increasing fear and prejudice toward a competitor. The appeal to fear is extremely common in marketing and politics."

    http://www.websters-online-dictionar...APPEAL+TO+FEAR


    Quote from IndiCRNA
    So the paper that published the names and a map of firearms permit holders in an area of New York has now hired armed guards. Funny how the firearm seems like a good idea when THEY feel threatend.

    http://www.detroitnews.com/article/2...un-permit-info
  11. by   IndiCRNA
    Quote from brownbook
    I don't see the hypocrisy?

    Why can't people say...."I think we need to think about, talk about gun laws, gun control."
    Had they said that, or something like it, that I doubt they would feel the need for armed guards. What they did was publish the names and addresses of people in an area who have gun permits. In many people's view the paper put the permit holders at risk. How is that saying we need to think about, talk about gun laws?
    The silver lining (in my view) is that the paper created a strong argument aginst registering firearms. Only a few areas of the US have firearms registration laws, mostly in the northeast, and their actions have helped ensure other areas don't pass similar laws IMO.
    Last edit by IndiCRNA on Jan 5, '13
  12. by   IndiCRNA
    This article is being used

    I am confused. When you say "this article" are you refering to the Detroit News article I posted or the article published showing names, addresses and a map of gun permit holders?


    I suppose you don't see just how condecending your message is?
  13. by   herring_RN
    I do not like accusing everyone who wants to do all we can to protect children from killers of hypocrisy. That is a red herring.
    We need a conversation without calling names.

    I think there are people who should not have weapons with the ability to kill many people without reloading.
    I think that people who own firearms need to report to the police if they are stolen. Just as with an automobile.
  14. by   IndiCRNA
    I do not like accusing everyone who wants to do all we can to protect children from killers of hypocrisy. That is a red herring.
    I agree but who are you talking about? What I think you are saying is that publishing the names of gun permit holders and a map to their houses is the same wanting to do all we can to protect children from killers. Please correct me if I am wrong. The issue in this discussion is a paper that published those names and that map, not someone wanting to have a discussion about firearms laws.

    We need a conversation without calling names.
    Is there a person wanting to have a coversation about protecting children from killers who has been called names? Please reference what you are refering to.

    I think there are people who should not have weapons with the ability to kill many people without reloading.
    I doubt you would find anyone who would disagree with that statement.

    I think that people who own firearms need to report to the police if they are stolen. Just as with an automobile.
    Wish and ye shall recieve! That is already the law in my state and I would imagine in many or all other states.
    Last edit by IndiCRNA on Jan 5, '13

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