Obesity - Global Warming-deficit- Obamacare

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    As I plan to join an (ending) obesity campaign in the near future...
    I'd like to bring this topic up from a different Angle.

    I believe obesity is one of the most important epidemics facing our country...and costing us hundreds of billions yearly.

    I was reading an article today from the "Huffington Post Healthy Living 5-1-2012"

    I'd like to give you some of the quotes and then discuss this in more detail as it relates to Global Warming, our deficit, and Obamacare.

    If you are not interested, don't feel bad most aren't. I am sure It will strike a nerve no matter which party you adhere to, but I hope you aren't afraid to discuss it regardless.

    "New York (Reuters) hospitals are ripping out wall mounted toilets, replacing them with floor models to support the obese.

    The Federal transit Admin wants buses tested for impact of heavier riders on steering and braking.

    Cars are burning nearly a billion gallons of gas more a year compared to the 1960's, an extra 938 milion gallons per year.

    Michael O'Grandy- co author of a new report for the campaign to end obesity research said "what policy knob can I turn to stop this hemorrhage".

    "If we avoided that heart attack, we could have put that money to better use, such as education or investments in clean energy" says Murray Ross VP Kaiser Permanente's inst for health policy.

    "Smokers die early enough that they save social security, private pensions, and medicare" trillions of dollars, said Duke's Finkelstein "but mortality isnt that much higher among obese. Medications are keeping them alive longer"

    "The US health care reform law 2010 allows employers to charge obese workers up to 50% more for health insurance if they decline to participate in a wellness program."

    Morbid obesity has risen sixfold and raises risk of heart disease, chronic pain, depression. One generally misses work more, and is less likely to be hired.

    So here is thre first question I have for this thread starter.

    For those of you who insist that humans are the main cause, or high enough to be concerned in regards to global warming. Are you truly interested in reversing it or not really that inerested?

    Even your global warming scientists will agree that obesity causes more food packaging, more transporting and refrigeration, more trash, more electricity and more fuel.

    So if Obesity not only harms people, costs more, and helps to destroy the ozone layer...what are you actively doing on your part to make a change in regards to obesity and this country?
    Last edit by jaad on Jan 14
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    Why Low-Income and Food Insecure People are Vulnerable to Overweight and Obesity « Food Research & Action Center

    This article discusses some of the problems that low income people face when discussing food choices. It is interesting to see how poverty really increases the chances of obesity. Much of this problem can be attributed to lack of availability of high quality foods and the high cost of healthier food choices (I just came from the grocery store, my whole grain bread cost 4.99 as opposed to the much larger loaf of white bread, .99).

    Another major factor is our children have become to sedentary. TV, video games and computers have made this upcoming generation a generation of couch potatoes. It has become so bad that there is a campaign to encourage children to play for 60 minutes a day. Can you imagine! When I was a kid, we would have been protesting that all we got was 60 minutes a day. We were outside from morning til night. We walked, rode bikes or ran to where we wanted to go. We even had to get up and walk to the tv to change the channel!

    Technology has been great, but it is a major contributor to obesity in our young people. A big solution to the problem is making the kids shut off the tv, turn of the computer and leave the cell phones and tablets at home and getting the heck outside and moving around.
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    "Global warming" is caused by fat people?

    Shilling for the petrochemical industry is bad enough ... this is truly off the chain!
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    Quote from heron
    "Global warming" is caused by fat people?

    Shilling for the petrochemical industry is bad enough ... this is truly off the chain!
    Global warming hype is debatible. What's not is the cost and lives ruined because of it...sorry

    I know it's hard to come up with a good argument as to why obesity should be ignored, try again....leave out global warming if you want. Let's talk about the cost of health care and obesity.
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    Pud, I always appreciate the thought you put into your posts :-)

    I completely agree with what you said, and too wish people would get whole wheat bread instead. If they do change the model to resemble WIC I would like to see that.

    Unfortunately, even those with money are buying junk food. What do you think would motivate our country as a whole to eat heatlhy again?
    I remember too when I was younger. If my friend and I wanted to go anywhere, we rode bikes. My parents rarely took us places.
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    Obesity is a more a symptom of much larger problems. We can teach people to how to cook healthy and how to make better food choices, but if we do not make those choices available, it doesn't mean anything. I never gave much thought to what stores and resources are available in different areas, but after reading the above article I am more aware. I know that if you live in the city and don't have transportation, you are most likely to shop at the corner store. These small corner stores are not well known to carry a lot of fresh produce or even have many choices at all. But if that is where you live and the only place you can get to, what do you?

    We live in a society, both rich and poor, that has become entirely too sedentary. We have become slaves to our technology (myself included). Remember when you would go somewhere, and if someone wanted to reach you, they called your home phone and left a message. You would return the call when you got home. The world continued to turn. Now, heaven forbid, you leave home without your phone! We've become a society of conveniences. Convenient foods, phones on our hips, the world at our fingertips without ever leaving the couch. The end result, obesity.
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    Quote from heron
    "Global warming" is caused by fat people?
    !
    Heron, You laugh and yet it's a global warming scientist...so all of a sudden it's funny...right?

    After all, science is science?

    Do you think obesity increases global warming? Please try to be serious for one moment...I know it's hard.

    Obesity causes global warming, say scientists


    "Being overweight is bad for the environment as well as your health, according to a study released today.Researchers at the London School of Hygiene and Tropical Medicine found that overweight people were likely to be more responsible for carbon emissions than slim people because they consume more food and fuel"



    Read more: Being fat causes global warming, say scientists | Mail Online
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    Quote from Pudnluv

    We live in a society, both rich and poor, that has become entirely too sedentary. We have become slaves to our technology (myself included). Remember when you would go somewhere, and if someone wanted to reach you, they called your home phone and left a message. You would return the call when you got home. The world continued to turn. Now, heaven forbid, you leave home without your phone! We've become a society of conveniences. Convenient foods, phones on our hips, the world at our fingertips without ever leaving the couch. The end result, obesity.
    Pud, yes. I agree.

    Do you also agree with scientists that obesity adds to global warming?
    Being fat causes global warming, say scientists | Mail Online
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    I would like to read the actual study, and not just someone's interpretation of it. I suspect there's been a lot of interpretation by the media outlet in the interest of grabbing attention. The writer talked about a larger body acting like a gas guzzling automobile. Hmmmm...I see a lot of people in their V8 trucks and huge SUVs driving around. I suspect they are a greater contributor to global warming than someone who is overweight.

    Now that I think of it, didn't you say that global warming is not proven? Then why do you think obesity contributes to something that you don't think exists?
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    Quote from Pudnluv
    Much of this problem can be attributed to lack of availability of high quality foods and the high cost of healthier food choices (I just came from the grocery store, my whole grain bread cost 4.99 as opposed to the much larger loaf of white bread, .99).

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    Pud, this study shows a different look on low income and obesity:
    Americans living in areas that are both low-income and that have limited access to grocery stores are only marginally more likely than those living in areas that are low-income, but that don't lack access to grocery stores to be obese -- about three in 10 in each. But, those Americans living in areas that have limited access to grocery stores -- but are not low-income -- are less likely to be obese, at 25%, and about equally as likely to be obese as those living in an area that is neither low-income nor low-access.
    Recently, a study in the American Journal of Health Promotion showed that education matters more in fighting obesity than income.
    "It has often been suggested that obesity happens because low-income people cannot afford high-quality food. Yet this study's results suggest an alternative narrative: that it is education, and not income, that constrains people's ability to eat healthfully," the researcher of that study, Frederick J. Zimmerman, Ph.D., said in a statement.
    Low Income More To Blame For Obesity Than Food Deserts, Study Finds


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