Obesity - Global Warming-deficit- Obamacare - page 2

As I plan to join an (ending) obesity campaign in the near future... I'd like to bring this topic up from a different Angle. I believe obesity is one of the most important epidemics facing our... Read More

  1. Visit  Pudnluv profile page
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    I do agree that education is our best weapon in the fight against obesity. We will never see junk food pulled off the shelves. The large corporations such as Frito-Lay and Coca-Cola have too any lobbyists in Washington to allow such a thing. They are also the reason that SNAP is not set up like WIC.
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    Quote from MunoRN
    I'm confused. You've argued that it's not even clear that humans add to global warming, but then argue that obesity, which even with creative math adds an extremely small amount of additional climate change relative to other sources, deserves significant effort to reduce it's effects?
    You believe that humans are part of the ozone depletion right?
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    Quote from Pudnluv
    No, being fat does not cause global warming. Excessive and irresponsible consumption adds to both global warming and obesity. Both are symptoms of our current easy access, throw away society.
    Did you read the article?
    Do you believe fuel adds to the destruction of the ozone layer?
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    Quote from Pudnluv
    I do agree that education is our best weapon in the fight against obesity. We will never see junk food pulled off the shelves. The large corporations such as Frito-Lay and Coca-Cola have too any lobbyists in Washington to allow such a thing. They are also the reason that SNAP is not set up like WIC.
    So now you believe it's our best weapon over location and income?
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    I would like to read the actual study, and not just someone's interpretation of it. I suspect there's been a lot of interpretation by the media outlet in the interest of grabbing attention. The writer talked about a larger body acting like a gas guzzling automobile. Hmmmm...I see a lot of people in their V8 trucks and huge SUVs driving around. I suspect they are a greater contributor to global warming than someone who is overweight.

    Now that I think of it, didn't you say that global warming is not proven? Then why do you think obesity contributes to something that you don't think exists?
    My main concern with obesity is how it's destroying America now...unlike the ozone layer...which is not being described as "hemorrhage" like obesity.

    Obesity more than likely: destroys health, hinders jobs, increases depression, increases risk for diabetes, heart disease, raises the cost for all on healthcare, increased pain, joint problems, and Unplanned Pregnancies More Common in Obese Women
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    Quote from jaad
    So now you believe it's our best weapon over location and income?
    I've always believed education is the best weapon. However, all the education in the world doesn't amount to a hill of beans if you don't have the means or access to buy the food.
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    Quote from Pudnluv
    The big difference between those with low income and those who are not low income is the availability of transportation. While many with higher incomes may live in areas that have limited access to a grocery store, they may have the means to go the farmers markets or grocery stores with bigger variety. Ever try going grocery shopping by taking the bus? You are pretty limited in what you can carry.
    I don't have a farmer's market where I live, but I do have a walmart.
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    Quote from Pudnluv
    I've always believed education is the best weapon. However, all the education in the world doesn't amount to a hill of beans if you don't have the means or access to buy the food.
    How big of a problem is this? What percent of low income don't have a car?
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    Quote from jaad
    How big of a problem is this? What percent of low income don't have a car?
    Are you genuinely asking or is this a question posed to answer another question? Here is the answer:

    Access to Healthy Food - PolicyLink

    What do you think the answer to the obesity problem is? You seem to question all available data as if it somehow doesn't meet your views. If education were the only solution, then we would all be rich, successful and skinny.
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    Quote from jaad
    My main concern with obesity is how it's destroying America now...unlike the ozone layer...which is not being described as "hemorrhage" like obesity.

    Obesity more than likely: destroys health, hinders jobs, increases depression, increases risk for diabetes, heart disease, raises the cost for all on healthcare, increased pain, joint problems, and Unplanned Pregnancies More Common in Obese Women
    No one disputes that obesity is a problem and causes health issues, in addition to economic consequences. It's one of many problems that plague this country. But tying it in with global warming is a stretch. You look long enough and hard enough, and creatively enough, you can find a connection between almost any 2 things. However, the validity and significance of these connections varies greatly. Media outlets will say anything to grab a headline. They're not really concerned with truth and evidence. That's why I like to read the original studies, same as I do for my practice. If you want to address obesity, more power to you. It's important. I just think you can do it more credibly, effectively and efficiently by not tying it in with another issue to which it has a very tenuous connection at best.
    Last edit by BCgradnurse on Jan 14, '14 : Reason: addition
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    It was an NP who motivated my daughter to lose weight starting in late 2004, mostly in 2005. She told her that with her obesity and HTN she may not live to age 40. She spent nearly 1/2 hour.
    My daughter started with the Special K diet. Now she has read the nutrition books I'd given her before. She went from size 18 to an 8.

    That was at a clinic that charges everyone on an income sliding scale from 50 cents up. She paid $40.00.
    She buys produce at a 99 cent store. The fruits and vegetables are OK but must be eaten right away.
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    Quote from Pudnluv
    Are you genuinely asking or is this a question posed to answer another question? Here is the answer:

    Access to Healthy Food - PolicyLink

    What do you think the answer to the obesity problem is? You seem to question all available data as if it somehow doesn't meet your views. If education were the only solution, then we would all be rich, successful and skinny.
    Do you agree with this?
    Among Rasmussen's findings, reported by The Washington Examiner : 74 percent of the poor own a car or truck; 70 percent have a VCR; 64 percent have a DVD player; 63 percent have cable or satellite TV; 53 percent have a video game system; 50 percent have a computer; 30 percent have two or more cars; and 23 percent use TiVo.

    Read Latest Breaking News from Newsmax.com Rasmussen: Most Americans Below Poverty Level Have Enough Food, at Least One Car
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    Quote from jaad
    You believe that humans are part of the ozone depletion right?
    You seem to be veering off course there, are you under the impression that ozone depletion is what causes climate change?

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