Mitt Romney asks us to trust him - page 3
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Mitt Romney asks us to trust him? I do not.... Read More
- 3Aug 18, '12 by CrufflerJJQuote from herring_RNThat's harsh. I trust both Romney and Obama. I trust them to say whatever they think I want to hear in order to get elected, then do something completely different.Mitt Romney asks us to trust him? I do not.
Our political process is all about gaining & retaining political power/influence/funding/future income, then showing favor to those who help the candidate achieve success.
It's not about the American people.
- 1Aug 18, '12 by Not_A_Hat_PersonI lived in Massachusetts for 30 years, including Romney's tenure as governor. He's very slick, very polished, and lies like a rug. When the SJC legalized gay marriage, he did everything in his power to try to punish the SJC (not that he could do much; the judicial branch is independent for a reason).
Quote from KornhonkDo you think the people who repeatedly demanded Obama's birth records would vote for him? Why haven't we seen Romney's birth certificate?The people who are demanding Romney's tax records would never vote for him. This is obsession.
- 0Quote from HM-8404I really haven't heard any republicans asking for his school records. I really wouldn't have known about this issue if it wasn't mentioned here.I honestly can't remember any ranking Democrat stating that Obama should turn over any records.
So perhaps you're right, the two issues shouldn't be compared. Fair or unfair (and you would think an issue that would derail the Presidency and send him to jail would be something the Republicans would be all over), Romney's tax returns are big news and Obama's school records aren't. Democrats would surely be talking about it if Republicans were making more of an issue about it.
- 2Quote from HM-8404Obama did exactly that. He provided his birth certificate to shut up the critics.The difference I see in Romney's tax returns and Obama's school records is one can be used to vilify one for the percentage of taxes they legally paid and the other can be used to nullify their Presidency, and possibly go to jail for fraud.
I have heard far more Republicans say Romney should just turn over his tax records to shut up the Democrats than I ever heard Democrats say Obama should turn over anything, birth certificate or school records. I honestly can't remember any ranking Democrat stating that Obama should turn over any records.
I don't see what the big deal is. Even if Obama went to school as an Indonesian student he would be given a pass by the vast majority of his voting block
I really haven't heard any republicans asking for his school records. I really wouldn't have known about this issue if it wasn't mentioned here.
So perhaps you're right, the two issues shouldn't be compared.
Fair or unfair (and you would think an issue that would derail the Presidency and send him to jail would be something the Republicans would be all over), Romney's tax returns are big news and Obama's school records aren't. Democrats would surely be talking about it if Republicans were making more of an issue about it.
- 4Quote from HM-8404...and it is ok that Obama lied about not knowing what was going on in Jeremiah "God damn America" Wright's church after sitting in a pew for 20 years, or that he wasn't associated with Bill Ayers, the co-founder of the Weather Underground, a self-described communist [COLOR=#000000]revolutionary group[/COLOR] that conducted a campaign of bombing public buildings (including police stations, the U.S. Capitol Building, and the Pentagon) during the 1960s and 1970s.
I promised not to jump on tit for tats, but I lied, I flip flopped, I'm hypocrite and I can't help it.
In the subject about Romney, is there anywhere that Herring hinted, or the article she posted that said Obama has never lied, and when he did it was ok?
We talked about Wright at the time it happened, and I don't remember any of us defending any wrong doing by Obama.
Bringing up a totally different topic in response to another topic is an ineffective defense of Romney in my opinion.
- 4Aug 18, '12 by UpstateNyDollCnaReally? Bringing up something someone did as a child? Also how is it an obsession to ask for his tax returns? He has a chance to be open with the public,but he refuses. I want the President of the United States to be as open as possible and he is far from it. He's a liar and is constantly changing his story . I'm sure there was no "obsession" talk when people were demanding to see Obama's birth certificate,but all of a sudden asking to see Romney's tax returns is sooo ridiculous? Give me a break!
- 4Aug 18, '12 by mediajunkie650FactCheck.org: Obama’s college records are not “sealed.” Obama hasn’t released them, but neither have other presidential candidates released their college records. George W. Bush’s grades at Yale eventually became public, but only because somebody leaked them to the New Yorker magazine. Bush himself refused to release them, according to a 1999 profile in the Washington Post.
FactCheck.org | Obama at Columbia University
Q: Is it true that nobody remembers Obama attending Columbia University?
A: At least one of his classmates remembers him well, and the university proudly claims Obama.
Recollections of Obama’s Ex-Roommate at Columbia | NY Times
- 3Aug 19, '12 by caroladybelleQuote from VivaLasViejasIf that were true for all of us.I remember a time when candidates' tax returns (love affairs, health problems, and the like) were PRIVATE.
Why do we have to know what they paid in taxes? How is that valuable in choosing a President? They're all wealthy---chances are they pay more in taxes than the vast majority of Americans earn in a year.
I have yet to have had a job in Nursing that has not required : a full physical, proof that I am reasonably healthy and can lift a certain weight, proof of citzenship, a full CREDIT check, proof of licensure, and a good work record.
In addition, most have required background checks, fingerprinting (by state and/or the employer), biased and slanted inappropriate testing (PBDS), personality profiles, and in a least one case, a full high level FBI clearance. And that employer also required me to get to work early to have my person and my vehicle fully scanned before entering the hospital campus (scanning that would even be set off by trace gun powder residue in the trunk).
How important are some of that minutaie to me caring for patients?????? Really, a credit check for nursing? And Romney won't submit a review of taxes. Come On!!!!!
I really don't care about college papers, or report cards. I DO!!! care about how our top leader handles money, how ethical he is and whether he upholds the ideals that he purports to hold dear. And do I want this person representing my nation. If I am voting, I am "hiring" them and I think a review of tax returns tells me a significant amount about money management, and ethical behavior in real adult life. It has also been an accepted part of the vetting process for president ( or so I have been told), unlike college papers. And the fact that he has permitted their review by McCain (who picked Sarah Palin instead), but not by the public that are potentially "hiring" him for a greater purpose. That right there, is a sticking point.
And both parties have failed miserably.
I don't think either party will improve the situation or make any change that will improve the lot of the average hardworking middle class taxpayer, one whit. I said that with the last election and I continue to hold that opinion.
- 3Aug 19, '12 by tntrnI continue to be amazed at the level of concern regarding Romney and his money - handling. Clearly, without seeing any records at all, he is successful at that. If he were violating tax laws to the tune of millions, the IRS would have been all over him long ago. Contrast this worry and concern and distrust with what appears to be, to me, a carte blanche approval for Obama to just keep spending and spending and spending OUR money. I see very little worry, concern or distrust expressed over that. It baffles me. One has proven he is a successful business man. One has proven he has no clue how to handle funds responsibly. And yet so many are willing to give him the chance to continue on in that reckless manner.
- 5Aug 19, '12 by CrufflerJJQuote from tntrnIf Romney is elected, wasteful spending will continue. The President has only minimal control over our nation's spending. There are so many people with vested interests lobbying/bribing our legislature that to implement true fiscal reform would result in a chorus of screams about being disenfranchised, left out, discriminated against, blahblahblah. All the while, we continue to waste billions of dollars (?trillions?) in foreign wars and in supporting our "allies" overseas.-snip-
One has proven he is a successful business man. One has proven he has no clue how to handle funds responsibly. And yet so many are willing to give him the chance to continue on in that reckless manner.
Same as it ever was...same as it ever was.