Minimum wage to $15.00/hr are you kidding me???

  1. 7 They need to fire their rears and get someone in there who is thankful to have a job! Who do they think they are?

    The president supports them doing this? Gee...I wonder if it's because he's losing the vote of the young and this is just a ploy!

    These jobs are not meant to raise a family of 3.
    These jobs are temp.

    What an insult to someone like myself who has been a nurse since 95 and actually only get a few dollars more than that!
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  3. Visit  VivaLasViejas profile page
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    What so few people seem to understand is that if the minimum wage were raised to $15/hr., prices would rise dramatically and decrease buying power for everyone.

    Also---while I agree that everyone who works should not do worse than someone who sits at home on welfare, fast-food, cleaning services, and other low-skill jobs are not worth $15/hr. Not when an LPN working in a nursing home makes $17/hr, or an RN working in a clinic makes $21/hr. (This is in my neck of the woods.) ALL wages would then have to go up, because no one who's got other options is going to work for peanuts. And that's when prices would literally explode. Think your Six Dollar Burger is spendy now? It would become a Ten Dollar Burger if the minimum wage were to be raised so dramatically.

    What some folks also don't seem to get is that business owners are NOT going to give up their profits. Who goes into business to break even? Yes, it looks like rich people have "too much", and that's "unfair", but your average small business owner (who is NOT rich) operates on a pretty slim margin and if his labor costs go up, he has no choice but to raise prices. Do you want America to be run totally by big-box corporations, or do you support small business? Hike the minimum wage to $15/hr and small business will cease to exist.

    Just a few of my thoughts.
    RNinIN, jtmarcy12, JustMe54, and 8 others like this.
  4. Visit  Not_A_Hat_Person profile page
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    The minimum wage definitely needs to rise, but not to $15; maybe $12. Obama is trying to raise the minimum wage to $10.10 per hour, and I hope that gets adjusted for inflation every year. The Massachusetts Senate passed a bill 2 weeks ago that would raise the state's minimum wage to $11 per hour.

    If the minimum wage went up to $15, I would also be making slightly above minimum wage. It's insulting not because the minimum wage would be so high, but because the wage for a skilled job would be so low. Wage deflation is hitting all fields. Last year, a Boston law firm made the news for offering a first year associate position (basically a new grad lawyer job) with a $10,000 salary. The legal field has been tight for a while, and 32 people applied.
    KelRN215, macawake, and TheCommuter like this.
  5. Visit  tntrn profile page
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    In the city of SeaTac, the last election had a very close one.....the minimum wage in that city (which includes Sea Tac airport) passed by a very narrow margin to $15/hr. Now it was already law that the food places at the airport couldn't charge more than the same-named ones off the airport....putting them at a huge disadvantage because their rents are many times more than just short distances away. Now they are all saddled with big wage hikes for workers.

    Many of those places, both on and off the airport, will go out of business.....and those with capital to use, will increase their automation capabilities, so as to make things faster without as many actual employees. Either way, it won't add people to the category of Employed.
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  6. Visit  heron profile page
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    The thing about money is that, like blood, it needs to circulate to maintain a healthy organism. Poor circulation to one area will damage or kill that area.

    Of course, that might be the idea ... with all the "globalization", union-busting, assaults on reproductive rights, not to mention gaping holes in the social safety net, there's a diminishing incentive to keep working class "cells" healthy since there's always more where that came from.
    TopazLover, BCgradnurse, macawake, and 5 others like this.
  7. Visit  Elvish profile page
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    What it seems to me the workers are doing is the same thing I do at yard sales. Set a price higher than what I actually expect to get, knowing that someone will come along and offer me a lower price that's more in the expected range. Nothing wrong with negotiating that.

    The problem with minimum wage jobs is not just the price, but who is working them. Used to be, it was overwhelmingly teenagers and women working outside the home just to fill time. Now, there are still teenagers, but there are far more heads of household working minimum wage jobs. Who here disagrees that someone working full-time should not have to depend on government help to make ends meet?
    TopazLover, jtmarcy12, BCgradnurse, and 3 others like this.
  8. Visit  Not_A_Hat_Person profile page
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    Quote from VivaLasViejas
    What some folks also don't seem to get is that business owners are NOT going to give up their profits. Who goes into business to break even? Yes, it looks like rich people have "too much", and that's "unfair", but your average small business owner (who is NOT rich) operates on a pretty slim margin and if his labor costs go up, he has no choice but to raise prices. Do you want America to be run totally by big-box corporations, or do you support small business? Hike the minimum wage to $15/hr and small business will cease to exist.
    It depends on your definition of "small business." According to the federal Small Business Administration, a small business can have up to 1,500 employees and annual receipts up to $21.5 million, depending on the industry.

    Small businesses are not inherently better than big ones. I've lived in enough little towns where the local small businesses were awful, but thrived because there was no competition.
    TopazLover, BCgradnurse, BrandonLPN, and 2 others like this.
  9. Visit  tntrn profile page
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    Quote from Elvish
    Who here disagrees that someone working full-time should not have to depend on government help to make ends meet?
    It depends on what kind of full-time work they do.
  10. Visit  Elvish profile page
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    Quote from tntrn
    It depends on what kind of full-time work they do.
    So.....you're saying that it's ok for certain people to depend on government help even though they work full time?
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  11. Visit  Kaci82 profile page
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    Quote from jaad
    They need to fire their rears and get someone in there who is thankful to have a job! Who do they think they are?

    The president supports them doing this? Gee...I wonder if it's because he's losing the vote of the young and this is just a ploy!

    These jobs are not meant to raise a family of 3.
    These jobs are temp.

    What an insult to someone like myself who has been a nurse since 95 and actually only get a few dollars more than that!
    You do understand that this a bargaining number, correct? They know they won't get $15/hr. But it leaves room to negotiate. So if they start at $15, they are more likely to get somewhere around $11-12 as opposed to starting at $10 and ending up with about $7. I'm surprised most people don't understand that tactic.

    And do you understand that these aren't temp jobs anymore? The way the economy is nowadays, there are college grads working fast food jobs.
    TopazLover, BCgradnurse, BrandonLPN, and 4 others like this.
  12. Visit  jaad profile page
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    Quote from Not_A_Hat_Person
    The minimum wage definitely needs to rise, but not to $15; maybe $12. Obama is trying to raise the minimum wage to $10.10 per hour, and I hope that gets adjusted for inflation every year. The Massachusetts Senate passed a bill 2 weeks ago that would raise the state's minimum wage to $11 per hour.

    If the minimum wage went up to $15, I would also be making slightly above minimum wage. It's insulting not because the minimum wage would be so high, but because the wage for a skilled job would be so low. Wage deflation is hitting all fields. Last year, a Boston law firm made the news for offering a first year associate position (basically a new grad lawyer job) with a $10,000 salary. The legal field has been tight for a while, and 32 people applied.
    I think he's trying to raise Min wage just to distract people from his debacle health care plan, trying to recapture the attention of the young that he's losing.
    SE_BSN_RN and FNP2B1 like this.
  13. Visit  jaad profile page
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    Quote from Kaci82
    You do understand that this a bargaining number, correct? They know they won't get $15/hr. But it leaves room to negotiate. So if they start at $15, they are more likely to get somewhere around $11-12 as opposed to starting at $10 and ending up with about $7. I'm surprised most people don't understand that tactic.

    And do you understand that these aren't temp jobs anymore? The way the economy is nowadays, there are college grads working fast food jobs.
    I am sure there are. I haven't had fast food in over 13 years, but I would be happy to pay more for a burger if it went for a college grad...someone who earned it!

    Keep Min wage the same and just give those who worked hard for a degree a bigger raise IMO
    FNP2B1 likes this.
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    Quote from VivaLasViejas
    What so few people seem to understand is that if the minimum wage were raised to $15/hr., prices would rise dramatically and decrease buying power for everyone.

    Also---while I agree that everyone who works should not do worse than someone who sits at home on welfare, fast-food, cleaning services, and other low-skill jobs are not worth $15/hr. Not when an LPN working in a nursing home makes $17/hr, or an RN working in a clinic makes $21/hr. (This is in my neck of the woods.) ALL wages would then have to go up, because no one who's got other options is going to work for peanuts. And that's when prices would literally explode. Think your Six Dollar Burger is spendy now? It would become a Ten Dollar Burger if the minimum wage were to be raised so dramatically.

    What some folks also don't seem to get is that business owners are NOT going to give up their profits. Who goes into business to break even? Yes, it looks like rich people have "too much", and that's "unfair", but your average small business owner (who is NOT rich) operates on a pretty slim margin and if his labor costs go up, he has no choice but to raise prices. Do you want America to be run totally by big-box corporations, or do you support small business? Hike the minimum wage to $15/hr and small business will cease to exist.

    Just a few of my thoughts.

    My husband and I used to own a coffee shop. I worked night shift as a nurse, came to the coffee shop during the day to put in a few hours before sleep. Husband worked 12 hour days. Co-Owners worked 12 hour days. We could only afford one person at minimum wage. People on welfare came in asking for left overs and wanting free stuff...assuming a business owner is "rich" yeah right!!!

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