Minimum wage to $15.00/hr are you kidding me??? - page 12

by jaad 20,909 Views | 528 Comments

They need to fire their rears and get someone in there who is thankful to have a job! Who do they think they are? The president supports them doing this? Gee...I wonder if it's because he's losing the vote of the young and... Read More


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    Another thought on the whole "$15/hr minimum wage" thing that's inexplicably causing some to be so angry: The cities this has been proposed in are large cities with a high cost of living. $15/hr in Seattle, Washington is very different from $15/hr in Pumpkin Corners, Kansas.

    A Starbucks cashier in a big city can, easy, make $15/hr. But they still live in a studio apartment and eat Ramen 5 nights a week 'cause the cost of living is so high.

    So before you all get your knickers in a bunch over these sort of "news" reports, stop and think critically. Put the story in the context of the facts. When you do this, these sensational stories loose a lot of their punch. There's usually a rational explination for everything.
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    Quote from Not_A_Hat_Person
    It sounds like you got your degree a long time ago. Do you have any idea how expensive higher education has become? I got a BA from a state school 10 years ago. The cost of the same degree has literally doubled in 10 years. For 2013-2014, in-state undergrad tuition and mandatory fees at a public urban commuter school with no dorms cost $497.50 per credit. My local community college charges $250 per credit. My local state U, one of the priciest in the country, charges $600 per credit in-state. If you have the kind of job that allows you to pay $1,800 per class out-of-pocket, and you've found a nursing program that allows students to attend part-time, congratulations. Unfortunately, most jobs don't pay that well.

    Keep in mind that simply pursing a degree, even one that's supposed to be-demand, will not automatically produce a job. How many threads on the main site are about new grads and experienced nurses who can't find jobs, even with a BSN, even after moving?

    The difference between assistance and a handout is the recipient. If it's going to you, it's assistance, If it's going to someone else, it's a handout.
    I know what you are saying....you aren't understanding what I am trying to say. I got my LPN back in 2005 and paid out of pocket for it, a semester at a time, at a community college. I just finished my BSN in July, so, yes, I do know how much tuition has gone up. I put off going back to school for a long time because of the cost. What I am trying to say/ask....is why does a bachelor's degree need to come from a 4 year university? I think I paid around $450 a credit for my BSN, but I was also able to transfer in half of those credits....I took out loans because I couldn't afford to pay out of pocket like I did at the CC....

    It shouldn't cost this much for a 4 year degree......for anyone......who really gets that profit? The instructors? I doubt it....so where does the money go? To the dean?

    The people who decide to further their education, especially young kids, shouldn't be saddled with all the education debt.....especially with the job market being so bad. I know.....I can't get a job in acute care doing what I really want to do.
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    Herring_RN: this is just incredible that you took the time to upload this I love love love this so much so inspiring, and this IS the face of America! Thanks so much!!! You should send this to each member of Congress and the House because I think they has lost touch with what Americans go through. Thanks again!!!
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    This whole thread makes me incredibly sad. We are nurses. We are supposed to be the compassionate, caring, most trusted profession. To turn your nose up at those less fortunate, those who are trying to scrape by the sweat on their backs makes me sick. Yes, I do have a problem with the current welfare system and with those who make welfare a lifestyle. I have no problem with those that legitimately get up every morning, put their pants and go to work to feed their families. It is unfortunate that so many rely on government subsidies to get by, and I am sure that those that work would rather earn just a little more so that they didn't have to rely on the government for help. These people need our compassion and support, not our scorn.

    We are Americans. This is the land that says if you work hard, you will be rewarded. This is a major principle on which this country was founded. Our ancestors came here for a better way of life. What would they say if they could see the America of today? To be worried that someone else with less education might make just as much as you would is silly. If that is the case, here is a thought.....unionize or get your state nurse's association to advocate for higher wages, much as we did back in the 80's and 90's. We did it, so can you.

    I am curious, how many of the nurses that are so taken aback have been nurses for 5 years or less? This very much seems to be the attitude of those with Nursitis. You know, the attitude that now that I am a nurse and make a good buck, I am better than you. Remember your roots. It wasn't that long ago that nurses were paid little more than minimum wage. Heck, it wasn't even that long ago that nurses were paid nothing at all. We fought for everything we have and we will continue to fight to improve our situation. That is all anyone asks to do.
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    Quote from Pudnluv
    This whole thread makes me incredibly sad. We are nurses. We are supposed to be the compassionate, caring, most trusted profession. To turn your nose up at those less fortunate, those who are trying to scrape by the sweat on their backs makes me sick. Yes, I do have a problem with the current welfare system and with those who make welfare a lifestyle. I have no problem with those that legitimately get up every morning, put their pants and go to work to feed their families. It is unfortunate that so many rely on government subsidies to get by, and I am sure that those that work would rather earn just a little more so that they didn't have to rely on the government for help. These people need our compassion and support, not our scorn.

    We are Americans. This is the land that says if you work hard, you will be rewarded. This is a major principle on which this country was founded. Our ancestors came here for a better way of life. What would they say if they could see the America of today? To be worried that someone else with less education might make just as much as you would is silly. If that is the case, here is a thought.....unionize or get your state nurse's association to advocate for higher wages, much as we did back in the 80's and 90's. We did it, so can you.

    I am curious, how many of the nurses that are so taken aback have been nurses for 5 years or less? This very much seems to be the attitude of those with Nursitis. You know, the attitude that now that I am a nurse and make a good buck, I am better than you. Remember your roots. It wasn't that long ago that nurses were paid little more than minimum wage. Heck, it wasn't even that long ago that nurses were paid nothing at all. We fought for everything we have and we will continue to fight to improve our situation. That is all anyone asks to do.
    Way to tell it, Pudnluv! I think that is exactly what it is about! I had said in an earlier post that minimum wage being raised to $15 (or whatever) in no way diminishes the work that I do...and I truly mean it. Some folks are so out for themselves that they cannot see how bettering the minimum wage worker will truly help the entire community!

    I always scratch my head at the level of competitiveness, stinginess and "one up-man-ship" seen in this country. Why? A better minimum wage for those who are working is truly that "hand-up, not a hand-out" that seems to be the rallying cry of so many.

    Love, love your post!
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    I honestly didn't know whether to laugh or cry at the coldness and callousness of some of the responses. We don't want to give people handouts, yet we don't want to pay them a living wage so people can support themselves. Well, you can't have it both ways. Shaking my head.....
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    Thank you for this.
    There was a chance that no one would click the link.

    Dr. Maya Angelou gives this poem on behalf of the American people.
    let us try to be the best we can. Care about each other and help each other.
    That is the worldwide tradition of NURSING.

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    Quote from Pudnluv
    We are Americans. This is the land that says if you work hard, you will be rewarded. This is a major principle on which this country was founded.
    I agree with this statement! If raising minimum wage solved the problems of this country...I'd be all for it!
    Last edit by jaad on Dec 8, '13
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    Raising minimum wage won't solve all the problems of this country, but it will help people have a better standard of living and decrease reliance on public assistance. Sounds good to me.
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    Quote from BCgradnurse
    Raising minimum wage won't solve all the problems of this country, but it will help people have a better standard of living and decrease reliance on public assistance. Sounds good to me.
    It's only true if you could keep down the cost of living. $7.25 was a great wage 20 years ago. The cost of everything went up, so it's not great anymore!

    I hope to see your compassion when all of these people start getting these nice little cancellation letters thanks to our wonderful and caring president!


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