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  1. Why is it okay for a few Republicans Senators with NO MEDICAL EXPERIENCE “write” a new bill for health-care? Honestly, this is not right. We the people elect Congress, which is the House of Representatives and the Senate to represent our interest as citizens. However, the people that are currently elected are not representing us. They are holding a “secret” a.k.a closed door session to write a new healthcare bill. I think we as healthcare professionals need to speak up and say no to the closed-door meeting on the fate of our healthcare in the hands of certain Senators.
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  2. Poll: Is it okay for certain Senators to write a new bill for healthcare bill in secret?

    • Yes

      5.26% 1
    • No

      84.21% 16
    • What I did not know this was happening?

      0% 0
    • They know best

      0% 0
    • I do not care

      10.53% 2
    19 Votes / Multiple Choice
  3. 108 Comments

  4. by   SaltySarcasticSally
    Honestly, it doesn't matter what party they are, all politicians do not have the people who matter in mind (you know all of us who don't make 6 figures or more) when they make any bill. All of them are out for themselves and the big companies who fund their campaign. I am pretty liberal and do not like either party because to me they are all the same, a bunch of rich people trying to make themselves richer.

    That said I have not heard about this bill, do you have any links to read up on?
  5. by   luv2
    Republicans Prepare for a Vote on Health Care Next Week - NBC News


    Republicans Prepare for a Vote on Health Care Next Week
    by LEIGH ANN CALDWELL, KASIE HUNT and GARRETT HAAKE
    WASHINGTON — Republicans are preparing for a series of votes next week on a plan to overhaul the nation's health care system.

    There is no GOP bill yet for the public to see and even rank-and-file Republicans have yet to see any text of legislation. There isn't even an agreement that has leadership confident that they have 50 votes to pass a bill. But the expectation on Capitol Hill is there will be an outline of a proposal as soon as Wednesday, according to two Republican aides, aiming for a vote next week.

    Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell has been pushing for a vote before June 30th, the beginning of the one-week July 4th recess. But his lieutenants in leadership drove speculation that a vote could in fact happen in the next two weeks.

    “We have 52 Republican Senators all wanting to get to yes to find a solution and I believe we’re going to vote before the July 4th recess," Sen. John Barrasso, R-Wyo., the fourth ranking Republican, said on CNBC Monday morning.
    Last edit by traumaRUs on Jun 20
  6. by   luv2
    I posted 2 articles there are more on the internet.
  7. by   VivaLasViejas
    I seem to remember that Democrats did pretty much the same when they pushed Obamacare through in the dead of night. Where was the outrage then?

    For what it's worth, I do not agree with this health "care" legislation and hope it gets hung up indefinitely. I have no use for Obamacare either but it's better than this.
  8. by   elkpark
    Quote from VivaLasViejas
    I seem to remember that Democrats did pretty much the same when they pushed Obamacare through in the dead of night. Where was the outrage then?
    Why on earth do conservatives keep repeating this canard??? Is it that they think that, if they say it often enough, people who don't know any better will believe them? The process of writing and debating the Affordable Care Act took more than a year before it was brought to a final vote. The Democrats accepted over 150 Republican amendments, and, in fact, bent over backward and did everything they possibly could to involve the Republicans in the process of writing the bill in hopes of getting some Republican votes (the final Affordable Care Act is a very different law than what the Democrats would have written by themselves. The foundational concept of the law was originally devised by the Heritage Foundation, and Republicans looooved the idea and promoted it for years, which is why the Democrats used it is the foundation of the ACA -- because they knew it was an idea that was popular with Republicans. As soon as Democrats adopted it, hey presto, all the Republicans decided they hated it). There were months of public hearings involving all the stakeholders (heathcare providers, the insurance industry, the public ...). The entire process was as transparent as possible.

    Not only is the current Republican process exactly the opposite of the process of writing and passing the Affordable Care Act, the grotesque hypocrisy of the Republicans is beyond breathtaking. There is actual film footage of Mitch McConnell complaining bitterly, at the time, that 14 months to write and pass the ACA was "rushing" through the process, and the Republicans were not being given sufficient input into the bill -- now that his side is in charge, he literally has a small group of Republicans in a closed room, writing a bill that is being kept secret from even the majority of the Senate Republicans until the last minute, and he plans to rush it through a final vote within a few weeks, start to finish. How do these people live with themselves??
  9. by   Guy in Babyland
    To quote Nancy Pelosi when Obamacare came out "We have to pass the bill so that you can find out what's in it."
  10. by   milliemm35
    that's the thing. There are no links. When the ACA was drafted it was posted on WH's website for everyone to read. Obama's administration reached out to the medical community for input, and most medical and nursing associations including ANA endorsed it with minor revisions. This time, there is absolutely no input from the medical community. With the exception of Dr. Rand Paul who is rejecting any revision to ACA ( he wants total and complete repeal) most GOP senators are either indifferent to the new bill or are not aware of what's in it. It's a political maneuver but it's widely acknowledged that ACA, aka the Obamacare is here to stay.
  11. by   traumaRUs
    Moved to US poliitcs and edited to conform to the terms of service
  12. by   elkpark
  13. by   elkpark
    Quote from Guy in Babyland
    To quote Nancy Pelosi when Obamacare came out "We have to pass the bill so that you can find out what's in it."
    An intentional misinterpretation by the Right, since the day she made the original speech.

    The long (and surprisingly happy) life of Nancy Pelosi’s ‘pass the bill’ gaffe - The Washington Post

    In the seven years since Pelosi uttered that quote, it has become part of the conservative catechism. Republicans, arguing that the ACA was passed in a hurry — instead of the many, grueling months that reporters remember — slap the Pelosi quote on the table like a royal flush ...


    The Context Behind Nancy Pelosi’s Famous ‘We Have to Pass the Bill’ Quote | Mediaite

    Speaker Nancy Pelosi said Tuesday that people won’t appreciate how great the Democrat’s health plan is until after it passes.

    “You’ve heard about the controversies, the process about the bill…but I don’t know if you’ve heard that it is legislation for the future – not just about health care for America, but about a healthier America,” she told the National Association of Counties annual legislative conference, which has drawn about 2,000 local officials to Washington. “But we have to pass the bill so that you can find out what is in it – away from the fog of the controversy.” ... Almost immediately, though, the conservative media seized on the quote, and perverted it into an indictment of the law’s complexity.


    Nancy Pelosi was right: Democrats had to pass the bill so people could find out what’s in it - Vox

    One of former House Speaker Nancy Pelosi’s most infamous quotes was something she said during a 20-minute speech to the National Association of Counties’ 2010 legislative conference. Congress was considering the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act, and the endless, breathless coverage of the contentious process, Pelosi explained, was preventing people from appreciating the significance of its contents.

    “We have to pass the bill,” she said, “so that you can find out what is in it — away from the fog of the controversy.”

    Conservatives — abetted by dozens of political journalists who should have known better — immediately seized on a truncated version of the quote. Pelosi was really expressing her confidence in the underlying merits of the bill, but it became instead a shorthand for the allegedly dodgy process through which Obamacare was passed.
    Last edit by elkpark on Jun 20
  14. by   toomuchbaloney
    Perpetuating lies and misrepresentations about the ACA is the biggest tool in the box for GOP leadership and sympathizers. Sadly, Many of the citizen apologists don't even seem to realize they are complicit In the propaganda while others apparently don't care.

    Rarely do you see folks post those lies and then admit their error after the truth is revealed to them.
  15. by   elkpark
    Quote from toomuchbaloney
    Rarely do you see folks post those lies and then admit their error after the truth is revealed to them.
    Of course not; they just double down on the lies.

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