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Nov 15, '12 by Spidey's momQuote from leslie :-DCan you find me the medical evidence that states that no one who smokes pot might make decisions that aren't good for them and others? You don't think a young girl who smokes pot might go too far with her boyfriend and have sex when she knows it isn't a good thing? It definitely lowers inhibitions and impairs judgment.i would bet my last dollar that this person you observed, wasn't high on only pot.
that there was either etoh involved, or another drug (coke/meth maybe?)...
but this just is NOT a typical reaction to pot alone.
and fwiw, you cannot compare the mechanisms/pharmocology of pot/thc and alcohol...you just can't.
alcohol definitely disinhibits, pot doesn't.
leslie
I'm incredulous that people think pot just makes people into teddy bears.
I'm certainly not saying all pot smokers are abusers. I just have a problem with people who say someone who smokes pot wouldn't put their spouse into the ER with injuries.
I saw the lab results . . . I was there. He was only high on pot. There was also a guy in the group of friends my husband had (the potheads) who beat up his pregnant wife while only using pot.
Again - not saying pot = abuse. Just saying it can happen.Last edit by Spidey's mom on Nov 15, '12 -
Nov 15, '12 by leslie :-DQuote from Spidey's momno reason to find you medical evidence, because i never said anything about pot not impairing judgment.Can you find me the medical evidence that states that no one who smokes pot might make decisions that aren't good for them and others? You don't think a young girl who smokes pot might go too far with her boyfriend and have sex when she knows it isn't a good thing? It definitely lowers inhibitions and impairs judgment.
I'm incredulous that people think pot just makes people into teddy bears.
I'm certainly not saying all pot smokers are abusers. I just have a problem with people who say someone who smokes pot wouldn't put their spouse into the ER with injuries.
I saw the lab results . . . I was there. He was only high on pot. There was also a guy in the group of friends my husband had (the potheads) who beat up his pregnant wife while only using pot.
Again - not saying pot = abuse. Just saying it can happen.
i said that violence is NOT a typical characteristic or effect.
sorry, but this violent reaction you witnessed, is not typical.
that's the bottom line.
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Nov 15, '12 by MunoRNNo doubt pot smokers can still be abusers, but the evidence states that in general alcohol contributes to aggression, while marijuana inhibits aggression.
A couple of examples:
CONCLUSIONS: The results suggest that the pharmacological effects of alcohol play a primary role in the relationship between alcohol ingestion and aggression.
Alcohol and human physical aggression: pharma... [J Stud Alcohol. 1995] - PubMed - NCBI
Results support the consensus that marihuana does not instigate, precipitate, or enhance aggressive behavior.
http://psycnet.apa.org/index.cfm?fa=...1986-11321-001 - GuideNov 15, '12 by Spidey's momObviously mine is anecdotal ... I was simply responding to the idea that it is a hard and fast rule that pot doesn't cause any problems whatsoever.
Thanks muno for the links. I have some as well that point to the possibility of the opposite. But we'll just agree to disagree. - Nov 15, '12 by MunoRNI don't argue with you, Spidey's Mom, that it's certainly still possible to be aggressive while under the influence of marijuana, but statistically someone is more likely to become more aggressive under the influence of alcohol than they are under the influence of marijuana.
It's also worth noting that the commonly used test for marijuana use does not reflect current influence. Marijuana use testing looks for fat soluble metabolites, which can remain positive for weeks or even months after the last use.Last edit by MunoRN on Nov 15, '12 -
Nov 15, '12 by tewdlesThere is a great deal of misinformation about marijuana and it is not by accident. The legal alcohol lobby has a vested interest in keeping pot criminalized. - GuideNov 15, '12 by Spidey's momQuote from MunoRNI don't argue with you either . . . but believe me on this one anecdotal case. He had recently imbibed.I don't argue with you, Spidey's Mom, that it's certainly still possible to be aggressive while under the influence of marijuana, but statistically someone is more likely to become more aggressive under the influence of alcohol than they are under the influence of marijuana.
It's also worth noting that the commonly used test for marijuana use does not reflect current influence. Marijuana use testing looks for fat soluble metabolites, which can remain positive for weeks or even months after the last use.
I do the drug testing for the local high schools. I'll send you via pm what the lab we work with says about results. Thanks! -
Nov 16, '12 by PMFB-RNI have.
*** I believe you, I just don't share that experience. As to how many abused women and children I have seen who were abused by a drunk man, we no way I could remember or count then there have been so many.
caused BY ingestion of alcohol and/or drugs. You either are or are not a weak cowardly person who thinks it is ok to abuse people.
*** Word, true that.
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So funny how things pop out at me when I'm posting in threads on allnurses. In the news this morning:
Man asks judge if he can smoke one more joint
"That's going to be a challenge," Mitchell told the judge. "I like smoking weed. I have been smoking weed since I was, like, 10 years old." -
Nov 16, '12 by HM-8404Quote from tntrnI'm waiting to see how the Feds react to Blue states that try to circumvent Federal laws. I want to see if they go after them as vigorously as they did when some Red states did with immigration.The only reason I voted against it was because it is illegal federally. I can't quite see the point. If the feds are going to just turn the other way on this, then why have any federal laws at all?Medic2RN likes this.