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- Nov 15, '12 by MunoRNQuestion for you Spidey's Mom, is it an issue of 'tainted' money? Do you see it as being different from other 'vice' taxes?
- Nov 15, '12 by grownuprosieQuote from MunoRNthis made me giggle. Legalizing pot to "punish hippies".I get that part of it is to punish hippies by taking away something they like, but what better way to punish hippies than shifting some of your tax burden to them, particularly since they don't have any problems finding pot anyway.
Smaller government, less taxes for you, and Conservatives oppose this?
This law did a bunch of stuff that has not even been mentioned here. It makes the legal age of use 21. a 15 yr old can and will be arrested and prosecuted for underage use just like alcohol. What seller is going to risk/ bother selling illegally to a kid when they can legally sell to an adult? some, yes, but not nearly as much as there are now. It also set an objective level of thc an indicator for DUI. previously, an adult that happened to have a joint that got pulled over automatically gets a DUI regardless of time since use. many of these charges get thrown out anyway, but now we are not wasting money on prosecuting them. We have already gone over the tax revenue, but I think 2 BILLION dollars is worth repeating. Our state is in a budget crisis like many other states. If i have to pay 20% +$6.95/L for my vice, liquor, then pot should be taxed too. Legalization is not going to increase usage. It does not absolve anyone of personal responsibility. I will be a nurse in 6 months. I am not an idiot. THC will be on drug screenings for future employers, so i will not be using it. it is called being a grown up. If alcohol was on those screenings, I would quit that too. Blaming unemployment on legalization like a previous poster implied is just removing personal responsibility. If that were true, then there would be no unemployed potheads prior to legalization, which we know most definitely exist.
please excuse my rant.
- Nov 15, '12 by Griffin123
- Nov 15, '12 by grownuprosieQuote from Griffin123you... I like you...
- Nov 15, '12 by Davey DoI'm really enjoying this Discussion and just want to add a Perspective:
The Laws of Our Land are Guidelines which are the Result of the Beliefs of the Mainstream Society's Judeo-Christian Populace. Theoretically, in Our Society, the Majority Belief Rules; Whatever Belief is Popular flies.
Societal Belief progresses Organically, like a plant, bending, twisting, and turning along Heliotropic Paths. Some Activities which were once Taboo in Our Society are now Societal Mainstays. Alcohol, Tobacco, Gambling, and Marijuana exemplify This Concept.
I don't know where this Marijuana Legalization-Thing will progress Federally, but I know I will abide by the Law...
...or not get caught.
Davey (Still not Smokin') Do
- Nov 15, '12 by CloudySueI think it's a great idea for states to reap all the tax money they can on this. They make tons of money on alcohol, gambling, and in Nevada on prostitution, so why not? People are going to do what they're going to do, and regulating can create jobs (like the LCB) while freeing up police to address other issues.
If wine became illegal I would not partake in a glass or two on my nights off, but it's legal so I do. I don't get drunk, I just like to relax and socialize with my husband or friends. It's legal and I'm a grown up and I can handle it. No problem. I did my MJ "experimentation" when I was in college 2 decades ago, but since then I've stayed clean simply because I'm a law-abiding citizen and don't want any trouble. BUT if MJ were legal, I'd probably sometimes substitute that wine for a few tokes, followed by some Pink Floyd on my Bose headphones. If it were legal I can be a grownup about it just like w wine. Personally, I'm quite hoping my state gets with the program, as Pink Floyd has not sounded right to me since college.
- Nov 15, '12 by Flyboy17Legalizing Marijuana will not just make us a bunch money. Instead of paying DEA agents to fly around and look for pot. We will now be hiring more IRS agents to make sure that everyone that is growing it wiil be paying taxes. We will have to adopt a new ,more sensitive,testing system for employers to test for use during a day or week since it can stay in your system for 3-4 weeks. The care of overuse will then fall into the hands of ATF agents that will need to make sure that nothing is being illegally transported across boarders. Then the USDA and FDA will have to hire more people to make sure that it is being grown in a safe way, just as tobacco and foods are. It will cost us a lot of money.
- Nov 15, '12 by FlareQuote from Spidey's momYou just conjured such an image for me - my school office cabinet having a bong next to my nebulizer and a student that has to come it at noon for a toke. oh lord!Funny - in my school district nurse/public health nurse meeting today . . . there is a new student from Washington who came to school with a prescription for some kind of marijuana (still trying to figure it out) for seizure disorder. He's 7.
- Nov 15, '12 by Spidey's momQuote from decembergrad2011You can - I simply can't. A squinty-eyed, pursed lip, drag on a flattened end of joint and then holding your breath while you get maximum effect vs. taking a dainty sip of good wine. Not the same.But I would equate drinking a glass of wine to smoking a joint at night. I'm not sure there's an argument against marijuana enjoyed under the same conditions as alcohol.
Quote from MunoRNYes, and just because there are already ways in which we do that doesn't mean we have to add more. So yes, "tainted" money.Question for you Spidey's Mom, is it an issue of 'tainted' money? Do you see it as being different from other 'vice' taxes?
- Nov 15, '12 by Spidey's momQuote from FlareI know!! The kid just came here . . . the Rx is confusing . . . still trying to figure it out. Not my district so we are all waiting to hear what ends up happening.You just conjured such an image for me - my school office cabinet having a bong next to my nebulizer and a student that has to come it at noon for a toke. oh lord!
I went to a conference on Seizure Disorder in Kids about a month ago . . . the docs didn't mention pot. I'll have to write one of them and ask.
Washington State . . .. just to clarify.