Legalizing marijuana; Cha-ching - page 4

I was aware one benefit of legalizing marijuana was to reduce government spending on enforcement, litigation, and imprisonment, but I guess I hadn't realized the extent of potential revenue. From... Read More

  1. Visit  Spidey's mom profile page
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    Quote from Flare
    You just conjured such an image for me - my school office cabinet having a bong next to my nebulizer and a student that has to come it at noon for a toke. oh lord!
    I know!! The kid just came here . . . the Rx is confusing . . . still trying to figure it out. Not my district so we are all waiting to hear what ends up happening.

    I went to a conference on Seizure Disorder in Kids about a month ago . . . the docs didn't mention pot. I'll have to write one of them and ask.

    Washington State . . .. just to clarify.
  2. Visit  Elvish profile page
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    Quote from Spidey's mom
    You can - I simply can't. A squinty-eyed, pursed lip, drag on a flattened end of joint and then holding your breath while you get maximum effect vs. taking a dainty sip of good wine. Not the same.
    Ok, so change the dainty sip of wine (no one ever takes just one unless you're just tasting, anyway) with coming in from the rough outdoors, popping a couple cold ones, then letting out a very manly belch while scratching your crotch and picking your nose.

    Having said that, I don't begrudge you your honest feelings...we all have 'em. Could it be, though, that you see smoking weed and drinking alcohol differently because one is something you're used to, maybe even participate in, and one isn't? Not trying to get in your face about it, just trying to understand where you're coming from.

    Plants have been used as medicine for millenia. Weed has lots of already-known medicinal uses, and probably some as-yet undiscovered ones. I'm not above thinking Big Pharma has something to do with weed staying illegal, even though technically it's the purvey of law enforcement. People using straight weed, growing their own, instead of taking meds for half a dozen or more different conditions = big drop in Big Pharma revenue. They totally have something to lose.
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    Quote from Elvish
    Ok, so change the dainty sip of wine (no one ever takes just one unless you're just tasting, anyway) with coming in from the rough outdoors, popping a couple cold ones, then letting out a very manly belch while scratching your crotch and picking your nose.

    Having said that, I don't begrudge you your honest feelings...we all have 'em. Could it be, though, that you see smoking weed and drinking alcohol differently because one is something you're used to, maybe even participate in, and one isn't? Not trying to get in your face about it, just trying to understand where you're coming from.

    Plants have been used as medicine for millenia. Weed has lots of already-known medicinal uses, and probably some as-yet undiscovered ones. I'm not above thinking Big Pharma has something to do with weed staying illegal, even though technically it's the purvey of law enforcement. People using straight weed, growing their own, instead of taking meds for half a dozen or more different conditions = big drop in Big Pharma revenue. They totally have something to lose.
    I didn't mean only ever take one sip. I was equating one sip with one drag and how different that looks. I'm talking how it LOOKS to me. Not the effects it has on people.

    I'm talking about a Cheech and Chong movie (cue Lowrider music) vs dinner with friends drinking wine.

    And yes of course there are folks who imbibe in alcohol in unseemly ways.

    I'm not arguing that.

    I'm used to smoking weed because I did smoke weed at one time with my pothead ex. I did hang with all the potheads he worked with - we invited them over for dinner; we had dinner at their homes. He is still a pothead and looks the part (you should see my son's wedding photos).

    I'm not a neophyte. Hey, I grew up in the era of sex, drugs and rock and roll. (pot smoking smilie)

    I'm been researching the idea of pot for the 7 year old with seizure and came up with this thread on epilepsy.com . .. pretty interesting comments.

    Marijuana and seizures | epilepsy.com
  4. Visit  PMFB-RN profile page
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    I dunno . . . growing up in an era where it was wrong to smoke pot. . . where pot was illegal . . . makes it hard to think we should ACQUIESCE and make money off pot. Seems ethically challenging to me.

    *** Not to me! I don't see it as being any of my business what concenting adults do. I am not a user but doesn't bother me a bit that other choose to. I am bothered by the lives estroyed and the money spend enforcing anti pot laws.

    Alcohol just made it through the door of legality first and a long time ago.

    *** That had nothing to do with drinking. Alcohol was legalize as soon as gas became firmly established as the fuel of choice for the then new internal combustion engine.


    People just wanna get high.

    *** Probaly but i don't see it as being any of my business.


    Comparing drinking a glass of wine with dinner and someone taking a hit off a marijuana cig . . . those pictures don't jibe.

    *** I have yet to see a woman come into the ER after being beaten to a pulp by a husband who was high on pot.
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  5. Visit  TopazLover profile page
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    I have to laugh at ethically challenged. We just got through an election cycle where falsehoods were the norm. Ethics was a lost subject for many. Prohibition has never worked. The war on drugs with the "just say No" did not work. Abstinence teaching does not work to prevent pre-marital sex.

    Either we are very ethically challenged and adding one more to the mix is not a big deal or we admit we are not able to police all behaviors of all people. The last few months it was the female parts, now it seems to be focused back on the lungs. In either case most of the activity goes on behind closed doors. I do not want a more intrusive government telling me what I should do in my home. It does not matter if it is Twinkies, wine, sex, beer, pot, or soda. Note to government: Keep as far out of my pantry as I want you out of my bloomers.

    Does that make me ethically challenged? I do not smoke pot. I cannot afford any more pot holes in my brain. I forget enough, thank you. I work in the legal field. I don't smoke cigarettes either. I don't feel more ethical than someone who believes it should be legal for other reasons, such as personal use.
  6. Visit  tewdles profile page
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    As a recent chemotherapy and surgical patient who enjoyed the benefits of medicinal marijuana, I would like to see access to that greatly improved for people in all states.

    Medicinal marijuana allowed me to control my nausea without taking medications (again) that are dangerous for my heart (please reference QT changes with anti-emetics). Additionally, it worked well for general visceral pain and allowed me to avoid use of opiates which complicated my gut recovery.

    Recreational use is quite another matter. Here in Alaska, pot is decriminalized, the state does not police those federal laws. Alcohol is a bigger problem than pot in the state.

    It doesn't make sense to me that we (as a country) waste so much of our law enforcement resources attempting to maintain a prohibition against something primarily to appease the fears of some and to guarantee the health of the liquor and pharm industries.
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  7. Visit  netglow profile page
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    "*** I have yet to see a woman come into the ER after being beaten to a pulp by a husband who was high on pot."


    I agree.

    Think of the tax revenue and the saved "chase-down" money! Just think, a cute little pot boutique on every corner right next to Starbucks. Ahhh, I was all into growth of small business and all, then I thought Walmart will hit on that (ha) and ruin it for the little guy.... Chuck E Cheeze, now tolerable for Parents... gold mine! Seriously if you could get stoned, wouldn't you be OK with bringing the kids to Chuck E?
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  8. Visit  tewdles profile page
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    you made me smile netglow...
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    I remember being so traumatized when my dad (not to be confused with my stepdad, whose recreational weed habits are unbeknownst to me at this time) told me he'd tried weed a few times in the 70s (him and just about everybody else, I know...). My dad is about as straight-laced as they come, doesn't even keep wine coolers in the fridge. He was introduced to it during his time in the Air Force. He says inspections were a joke, because the guys who had been toking tried to cover up the smell by spraying Lysol....which only made it smell like Mary Jane and Lysol. And then to get them out of their bunks for the same inspection - ha! Side story. Sorry.
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    Quote from PMFB-RN

    *** I have yet to see a woman come into the ER after being beaten to a pulp by a husband who was high on pot.
    I have.

    edited to add . . . .

    Being abusive really isn't caused BY ingestion of alcohol and/or drugs. You either are or are not a weak cowardly person who thinks it is ok to abuse people.

    Adding ANY mind-altering substance into THAT mix will lower inhibitions and might just make the scummy coward more apt to abuse.
    Last edit by Spidey's mom on Nov 15, '12
  11. Visit  leslie :-D profile page
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    Quote from PMFB-RN
    *** I have yet to see a woman come into the ER after being beaten to a pulp by a husband who was high on pot.
    Quote from Spidey's mom
    I have.
    i would bet my last dollar that this person you observed, wasn't high on only pot.
    that there was either etoh involved, or another drug (coke/meth maybe?)...
    but this just is NOT a typical reaction to pot alone.

    and fwiw, you cannot compare the mechanisms/pharmocology of pot/thc and alcohol...you just can't.
    alcohol definitely disinhibits, pot doesn't.

    leslie
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    Quote from leslie :-D
    i would bet my last dollar that this person you observed, wasn't high on only pot.
    that there was either etoh involved, or another drug (coke/meth maybe?)...
    but this just is NOT a typical reaction to pot alone.

    and fwiw, you cannot compare the mechanisms/pharmocology of pot/thc and alcohol...you just can't.
    alcohol definitely disinhibits, pot doesn't.

    leslie
    Can you find me the medical evidence that states that no one who smokes pot might make decisions that aren't good for them and others? You don't think a young girl who smokes pot might go too far with her boyfriend and have sex when she knows it isn't a good thing? It definitely lowers inhibitions and impairs judgment.

    I'm incredulous that people think pot just makes people into teddy bears.

    I'm certainly not saying all pot smokers are abusers. I just have a problem with people who say someone who smokes pot wouldn't put their spouse into the ER with injuries.

    I saw the lab results . . . I was there. He was only high on pot. There was also a guy in the group of friends my husband had (the potheads) who beat up his pregnant wife while only using pot.

    Again - not saying pot = abuse. Just saying it can happen.
    Last edit by Spidey's mom on Nov 15, '12
  13. Visit  leslie :-D profile page
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    Quote from Spidey's mom
    Can you find me the medical evidence that states that no one who smokes pot might make decisions that aren't good for them and others? You don't think a young girl who smokes pot might go too far with her boyfriend and have sex when she knows it isn't a good thing? It definitely lowers inhibitions and impairs judgment.

    I'm incredulous that people think pot just makes people into teddy bears.

    I'm certainly not saying all pot smokers are abusers. I just have a problem with people who say someone who smokes pot wouldn't put their spouse into the ER with injuries.

    I saw the lab results . . . I was there. He was only high on pot. There was also a guy in the group of friends my husband had (the potheads) who beat up his pregnant wife while only using pot.

    Again - not saying pot = abuse. Just saying it can happen.
    no reason to find you medical evidence, because i never said anything about pot not impairing judgment.
    i said that violence is NOT a typical characteristic or effect.

    sorry, but this violent reaction you witnessed, is not typical.
    that's the bottom line.

    leslie
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