Just a friendly reminder...

  1. Hello,

    Okay, so after reading many articles on Hurricane Sandy, I realized that some people did not take personal responsibility and prepare for the storm; then, they whined that the government is too slow in responding. At the bottom of the news pages, there's all the comments blaming presidents and such. I realized that people truly like to play the blame game in any situation to relieve personal responsibility, not just this storm.

    Each presidential candidate has their ideas and such, but there are more people than just them responsible for the condition of the country or to be more specific, your state. There are legislatures in each state and the local governments that probably have a larger impact on the living conditions (employment, aid, etc.) in each area than the president has. So, please, if you don't like something or disagree with an issue or you agree with something and want it passed, please write your legislature and also, vote. I think we all (or most of us) vote, but beyond the elections, people complain about whatever politician is in office. There are things you can do to try and change what you don't like--write your legislature, attend rallies, sign petitions, volunteer for a cause you believe in, etc.

    I just got the feeling that people are becoming passive and just want to complain instead of being active and changing what they do not like.

    Just a friendly reminder...
  2. 8 Comments

  3. by   MedChica
    I haven't been on this earth that long but it does feel as though people are way more passive than they used to be. Dependant on the govt.

    The hurricanes? Well, I hate to begin with this over-used comment, but 'as someone who lived along the Fl gulfcoast' for close to 10 years?

    This isn't surprising. Actually, I would expect more in that area to stick around b/c hurricanes don't really swing 'thataway'. I think that, because people can't see the threat or visualize a little wind/rain doing much, they're slower to respond.
    I can almost understand them for not leaving. I almost blew it off, "Ah, it's just a Cat 1!" before I caught myself.
    Cat 1's can do damage, too.

    Where I was in S. Florida, people always waited until THE last minute to do their hurricane shopping...and that summer when we had hurricane after hurricane hitting the gulf?
    They'd wait until the day BEFORE the hurricane arrived to leave the low-lying areas. The smart people sought higher ground 5 days ago. They'd wait until the last minute to gas up then complain about gauging. The smart people stocked up days before.
    Everyone doesn't leave, either.
    In the news, this is what you hear from these people', "Oh, we're gon' stick it out." ; "We've done this before...." ; "We're gon' ride it out" ; "Oh, my trailer can withstand 100 mph winds..."
    Hurricane hits and guess who's calling 9/11 screaming, 'Save me' ?
    ...but help isn't coming. It's not safe for 'help' to travel. See, "help' has to cross a bridge to get to these waterfront properties and, sadly, they're always shut down...because of the storm surge, downed powerlines, debris in the roads, flooded streets. Because of the WIND that can sweep your car right off the highway!

    Thing that kills me? When people complain because the crews can't turn their electricity on fast enough in the aftermath of the weather event. When Hurricane Frances practically took a vacation over Fl and dumped all of that water on us? That's precisely what happened. It's not right. These guys are working 'round-the-clock'. They're doing their best.
    "We don't have any food...what will we eat?"
    "We don't have water...what will we drink?"
    "It's hot...!"
    "I can't see tv...!"
    If a mass casualty situation every hit this country? A large amt of the public isn't going to make it. They don't have it within them to survive w/o someone holding their hand.

    I told a friend who still lives in fl - and had neglected to stock up on hurricane supplies during the tax holiday - that she needs to move to Missouri, Texas, Ok, Nebraska, etc...
    Because...when you live in 'Tornado Alley'?
    You don't get a full WEEK to piddle around while you make life and death decisions for yourself and your family. LOL
    You get minutes, honey. MINUTES.
    I was in Devine visiting my mother when they broadcast a 'sighting' and told the listener to 'seek immediate shelter'.
    I made a beeline for the basement with a pee trail behind me!
    Have you ever seen a tornado 'funneling' up in the sky? It's majestic. Beautiful...but, frightening.

    But...you've places in Fl like Tampa. Never experienced a hit. Hurricane always swings above or below and it's always a depression or a storm. That's why many in that area don't take it seriously.
    God help the natives of Tampa/St Pete if they ever experienced a 'direct hit'. It'll be Katrina Part 2. That area's below sea level. Florida, in general, can't hold water. It can't even handle a 'depression'.
    A mere Cat 1 would do that place in....
  4. by   TopazLover
    To some extent I agree with the PP. I was brought up where a trip to the store was not an every day experience. You stocked up. I lived in the arctic. Planes could not fly supplies in every day. You stocked up.

    In prep for Sandy one of my on line friends posted the concern loooong before it became a hurricane. Local stations picked up the story early. In our area most people were out picking up things 2-3 days before the storm. By the same token, the reports of storms on TV is not always accurate. Snowstorms are forcast in feet and we receive inches. The awfulizing that newscasters spew out is responsible for some of the disdain. Many of the people who stayed on the barrier islands admitted they should have left but the forecasters have said the same stories for every storm and they have left their homes for a non-existant storm in the past. They stopped believing what they heard or read.

    Additionally, we are a throw away society. not just in plastics and foil but also in words. A week after the prognosticators get everyone in a panic about the depth of the snow or the height of the waves they are back to telling us how to dress the kids for school. It is gone. We see the same thing in our election this year. A politician says one thing today and next week says exactly the opposite. FEMA is a good example of this shape shifting.

    I witnessed from afar but still close to the situation when a horrible flood wiped out whole villages. There were local individuals with resources that did all they could. There were non-profits that contributed all they could, there was state and national help. Each piece contributed to the rebuilding and revitalizing of the communities.

    In larger areas there is a lack of close knit relationships. It was interesting to see people from huge cities contribute to the efforts of the small towns. They had made connections with the people in the small towns that they did not have with their own community. Now, they are in need. The small communities are assisting as they can, giving to the efforts for those they have never known.

    Back to the subject. Some people do expect others to take care of them. That is a minority. They stick out like sore thumbs. What we don't see on TV or read about are the cohesive efforts by the majority. They do what they do. They prepare the best they can. They give to each other and assist where they can. In massive disasters it is beyond the ability of individuals, communities, and even states to deal with. Then we do rely on the federal government for help.
  5. by   wish_me_luck
    Thanks for responses. I guess I am just irritated how helpless our society has become. I personally am a moderate that tends to vote Democrat. Politics aside, I have seen the president thing from both sides of the fence (Bush with Katrina and Obama with Sandy; Bush with the wars and Obama with the debt and unemployment rate) and I sit there and think...since when does a president cause a hurricane, since when is a president alone starting a war--there was a Congress back then when the Iraq war (and Afghanistan) was started, since when is the president your employer or potential employer at the hospital or whatever place of employment you work at in your community, and to be honest (I know I am going to be hated for this comment), even though I know it is important to pay down the national debt, I don't understand why so many people use the national debt thing as something to complain about. I know from the few jobs that I have had, I don't ever look at my paycheck and think "Hmmm, I wonder how much of this is going to pay down the national debt". It has very little, if any, impact directly on your living conditions. Notice I said directly.

    I am from the (lovely) state of Virginia. I personally am underemployed. But, it is for a couple of reasons. The first one, and the most important one, is because I can't work in health care until approved. That was my fault--I did the things that got me into this situation. I cannot blame the Board, I cannot blame employers, I cannot blame any sort of politician, including the president, for my underemployment. Second, I looked at a employment statistics map of Virginia (a recent one) and I noticed that my area has a rather high unemployment rate compared to the rest of the state. Well, looks like I will be looking outside the area for employment. Notice how I said that my area has a relatively high unemployment rate, not the state or region or country. That means, the local politicians are doing very little to bring jobs to the area. Now, on to other issues. Any sort of legislation passed on a federal level involves Congress (which is made of House of Rep. and Senate; these people are from each state) Citizens of each state can write their respective Congressional members and tell them how they feel on certain issues (my mom made her students do this in nursing leadership--yes, my mom is a nurse and one of their assignments was to pick a health care issue/bill that was up for being passed/amendment and write to their Congressional member about how they felt. There is a format that they had to follow, but they did write their Congressman. A few of them actually heard back from the Congressman's office).

    I just wanted to throw this out there as we have an election in less than a week. Someone will win--Romney or Obama (along with your state Congressional members); they have very different ideas on how to fix things. Neither of them are perfect (neither are the Congress members). You can change what you find wrong with their ideas by writing to your Congress members as the president cannot sign anything into law without approval of Congress.

    Also, become more involved. As I have shared many times, I have a mental illness. In Virginia, next year, NAMI is participating in something called "Lobby and Rally Day" in Richmond. I have marked it on my calendar (I am going to try and attend if I am not doing anything that day). I truly believe in rights for people with mental health issues and we have a long way to go in the care and treatment of people with mental health issues. I think the stronger the voice and participation in these types of events, perhaps, something can change for the better. I am sure everyone has a cause that they believe in. Our society would be so much better if people started participating rather than sitting back and waiting and hoping things will change for the better.

    After the election, you do not have to wait another 4 years to make your voice heard.

    Have a good day.
  6. by   ktwlpn
    How COULD any individual adequatly prepare for such a catastrophe? This goes way beyond "enough food and water for three days"
    That said,I agree that the majority of the general public lacks a sense of responsibiilty.We have become a society of SOFT people because we have never really known hardship.
  7. by   TopazLover
    Many have known hardship and usually you can recognize these people because they are the ones who step up and find a way to help out. I just posted in another thread what people from my home area are doing for those in NYC. They survived the loss of most of each small village and have grown stronger for it. Now they are traveling to NYC to help out an share their wisdom. They know how to deal with clean out. They know about dealing with FEMA and how to mobilitze non-profits to work in ways that help the most.

    Some are soft in this country. It probably is no different than in the Civil War when draftees would pay another to take their place. Some are strong, some aren't. We are becoming an older society and there are some things that age effects a great deal. In many cases the spirit might be willing but the body is not as capable as it was 50 years ago. Calling the society soft is pretty harsh.
  8. by   ktwlpn
    To whine about not having power for your cell and ipad while others are huddled together for warmth in the darkness? Believe me,my nieces and nephews and my kid = SOFT.They have never known deprivation in their lives.My elders lived through the Depression-big difference.My g-mother was a HARD woman-she was a survivor.She could shoot a squirrel or wring a chicken's neck in the morning and have it on the table for supper.And she would always throw another potato in the pot to stretch that meal and feed the hobos begging at the back door.My college -age nieces can make Ramen noodles-that's it. No hot running water? No electricity? They would crap if they couldn't coif and make up.They really have never had to economize or struggle.They come from an entire generation of kids just like them-always the first,the best,the winners,the entitled.They are used to instant gratification and are not prepared for suffering.I'm sure there are many their age who come from different circumstances but the majority that I see is just like them.
  9. by   TopazLover
    Hate to admit it but I agree about the young people. When I say anything i am almost accused of telling the stories of how I walked 3 miles, each way, to school, bare footed in the snow, and had to walk uphill both ways.

    Well, maybe they are a bit right. I did have to work hard. My children understand the value of work and all work hard. Somehow it seems that the younger they are, the worse it is. I think I read that Plato said the same thing. It might hav been Socrates but I know it was at least a generation before me.

    All of us wanted to make life better for the next generation. maybe we succeeded too well. We raised them, we have to accept some responsibility for their outcomes.
  10. by   wish_me_luck
    I have to be honest. This conversation is going into a whole new direction than what I thought. I am not talking about generation wise, this is in general. It was when Hurricane Sandy struck that I realized that people don't want to take responsibility for their actions but instead whine about the consequences that they would not be facing had they done something about it. In addition, I am tired of the whining about presidents from both sides (the POTUS actually came up in comments about a natural disaster. Last I checked, the POTUS didn't create Hurricane Sandy.) Anything goes wrong in peoples' lives--it's the POTUS's fault. I can't believe how many people think the POTUS actually has that big of an impact on their daily lives. State and local officials actually have a bigger impact and not many people ever think about them.

    I mentioned this before. But, for example, if the POTUS and federal government had that big of an impact, then every state would have the same unemployment rate. They don't and even within a state, each town/city has a different unemployment rate. My point is, people complain about the POTUS (at any time, not just Obama), but it takes Congress (state officials) to pass anything the POTUS suggests or block (as we have seen many times over the past four years) and town officials have an even bigger impact on a town. My point is, we have 3 days until the election. If your choice doesn't win, then whatever issue you didn't like, it will usually go up for amendment/passing. Contact/write your Congressman and tell them how you feel on the issue (in the correct format) and maybe things will change how you want them.

    I just hate this helplessness from our society as a whole. We have become a society of complainers instead of being pro-active. I know the economy is bad, we have a bunch of clean-up with the storm, etc., but people cannot keep sitting back and doing nothing. People want change, but they don't want to be active in that change. It is just so much easier to blame others anymore than to look at a situation and say "What can I do to change this situation? Have I done everything I could do to help facilitate a change?" Being involved in politics as a citizen does not end at voting, these amendments/laws affect you, so you should be active in the decision on whether or not to pass something. You do that by writing your Congressman, participating in rallies, signing petitions, being active in a cause you are passionate about.

    Below are links to sites that are helpful in drafting a letter to Congress/Senate.

    How to Write Letters to Congress <---- Helpful tips on how to write a letter to Congress
    Find Your Representative - House.gov <---- Find your representative
    THOMAS (Library of Congress) <--- Look up bills

    Whatever cause you are passionate about, look up organizations that deal with that and see what they suggest as far as advocating and support. I think if everyone does a little, then we could make a big change in society. Just keep this in mind after election day and whenever there's something that you feel needs to be changed--politically or just as a society.

    "Ask not what your country can do for you - ask what you can do for your country"--JFK
    "Be the change you want to see in the world." -- Ghandi