If your side lost the election, time to secede from the Union?
- 1Nov 14, '12 by herring_RN GuideIf your side lost the election, time to secede from the Union?
That will never happen, but people on the losing side of the presidential election are venting via a petition, on a White House website, to have their state secede from the Union. Petitioners in Texas lead the pack.
Are they just sore losers? Or are they, rather, champions of free speech exercising their right of protest against a president they didn't vote for? ...
The site: https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/
- 6Nov 14, '12 by Spidey's mom GuideChampions of free speech exercising their right of protest against a president they didn't vote for . . .
Of course it won't change anything.
We've talked about the Great State of Jefferson before . .. . In fact that's what one NPR station calls their geographic area.
- 6Nov 14, '12 by TweetyI do look it at is as people protesting the election of Obama through petition and free speech. I'm not bothered by it in the least.
Of course it's also being sore loser and sour grapes. It's what the losing side does sometimes. I remember in 2000 the reaction of the losing side was swift and angry. People here would put up pictures of crybabies talking about us. What goes around comes around.
- 2Nov 14, '12 by Elvish GuideNothing will directly come of this, and the people who are behind it are mostly people who would be singing "God Bless America" at the tops of their lungs had Mitt Romney been elected. On the other hand, it sure has a lot of people talking about secession, which shows that the idea of it remains an important part of the American political consciousness.
- 6Nov 14, '12 by aknottedyarn GuideI believe everyone has a right to sound off and complain -free speech is a good thing. However, if people decide to stay (and it seems Rush has not started packing for Costa Rica yet) then there is a responsibility to be a good citizen and respect the office and the elected officials.
There is nothing wrong with venting. There is a great deal to be learned by the Monday morning quarterbacking that is currently ongoing. There are those who are being shoved under the bus and some are encouraged to become part of the woodwork for a period of time. That is also normal.
Those areas that seem to want to secede are the areas that receive the most federal help in many cases. As Leslie says, be careful of what you wish for.
- 4Nov 14, '12 by MunoRNI think it's a good idea. There is the issue of the things that would be hard to do on a smaller scale; the military for instance, for that we could join together in some sort of shared military. Having 40-50 different countries in what is currently the US would also make for a lot of borders to maintain, not to mention all the trade agreements and red tape that goes along with that, so having a single set of rules and oversight for things like that might make sense. A newly formed country in between two other countries that trade back and forth a lot shouldn't be solely responsible for maintaining the highways in between the two, so it would make more sense to share that responsibility as well. We'd have less negotiating power in the world as a bunch of smaller countries, so maybe we should still join forces for that kind of stuff. Security would be be more effective and efficient as a larger group than broken up, so maybe we should share that too. We could call everything we share something like, oh I don't know, a "Federal Government" and leave everything else up to the newly formed countries, which we could call "states".
- 0Nov 15, '12 by Griffin123Republicans: <talking among themselves> Hey, you know what we should do? We should ask a president who would force us to buy a product whether we wanted it or not if it would be OK to secede from the Union.
Republicans: President Obama, can we secede from the Union?
Republicans: Well it doesn't matter. It was time well spent.
...makes perfect sense to me.
- 0Nov 15, '12 by T-Bird78There may be a tiny handful that's sincere about wanting to secede, but for the most part it's people wanting to get attention. Maybe the President will realize that so many people are unhappy with the way things are going and listen to the reasons why and maybe, just maybe, work with Congress and find a solution. I can't remember another time when so many people, so many states, were wanting to secede from the union (other than the Civil War, of course). I don't think it'd be several independent countries, maybe the seceded states would form their own union. I don't think it would do anyone any good to leave the UNITED States.
- 2Nov 15, '12 by Spidey's mom GuideThe prez says he has the majority of Americans behind him . . . so does his v.p. And let's not forget the crazy congressman from Nevada.:***:
It won't make a darn bit of difference to Obama though. He already knows - he isn't dumb.